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Post by StarFuryG7 on May 22, 2012 17:43:43 GMT -5
Okay, now...I don't buy comic books, but I have to ask the few of you here who do ...at what point do you boycott Marvel and DC?
And like I said yesterday, just more proof that this country is going to Hell.
:::Ahem:::
Over at Blastr:Marvel confirms first-ever same-sex superhero wedding Right on the heels of DC Comics' announcement that it's about to turn a major character gay, Marvel Comics came out today with some gay-friendly news of its own. It's been rumored for months, and now it's confirmed: Marvel's about to print a same sex superhero marriage. MORE: blastr.com/2012/05/marvel-confirms-first-eve.php
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Post by TrekBeatTK on May 22, 2012 21:31:51 GMT -5
The tricky thing here is that Marvel puts itself in more of a "real world" context. Is this even legal in the Marvel universe?
I think it highly likely that this marriage will not last. There's no drama in happy couples, even gay couples. So something will happen within a few years to separate them.
Considering this is a Star Trek board (or at least that's what brought us all here), I find it funny to look at how Trek is seen as so progressive these days when in fact there was a strong conservative streak running through the original series, and I'm sure it wasn't all mandated by the network. Heck, it's still kind of hilarious to hear Kirk arguing in favor of the Vietnam War.
Isn't it strange that men like Teddy Roosevelt were considered "progressive" in their day? Certainly doesn't match the modern definition. (granted, Wilson was considered a component of the Progressive movement as well, and I consider him one of our worst presidents who among other things gave us income tax. But the point is that "progressive" wasn't synonymous with liberal then like it is now).
-TK
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Post by CRAMBAM on May 23, 2012 6:51:13 GMT -5
I find it more ironic that the left wing pat themselves on the back for their tolerance, but are the most intolerant people on the planet. They only tolerate people who agree with them.
As for this issue, this isn't the type of thing that bothers me. I don't think it's appropriate for children, but I wouldn't boycott a comic book over a choice to have a gay superhero marry.
Where I have a problem would be if they took a superhero previously shown as straight, and turned him gay. THAT is cause for boycott because to me, that's a case of not just pushing your views on people, but forcing them down your throat.
I wouldn't buy this issue because I'm simply not interested, but not out of some anger.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on May 23, 2012 15:48:17 GMT -5
Where I have a problem would be if they took a superhero previously shown as straight, and turned him gay. THAT is cause for boycott because to me, that's a case of not just pushing your views on people, but forcing them down your throat. |
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Post by TrekBeatTK on May 23, 2012 22:15:56 GMT -5
this would be a bad move. The thing is, there have been so many Green Lanterns, they could have just introduced a new gay one. Taking the ORIGINAL and making him gay is like making Captain Kirk a shapeshifting alien. (which is actually what they did with Supergirl. THAT's a long story...)
The recent Green Lantern movie however was not this Green Lantern, but a later one.
-TK
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Post by CRAMBAM on May 24, 2012 7:25:11 GMT -5
That was a different Supergirl.
I don't even think the picture is Alan Scott. Looks like a different costume, but that's the article.
Alan Scott even has a daughter. Not that gay people can't reproduce, but that's terrible.
I wonder how all these dumb changes affected their sales.
It's not really comics anymore. It's bastardizations of great characters now used to promote a left wing agenda.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on May 24, 2012 11:16:59 GMT -5
It's not really comics anymore. It's bastardizations of great characters now used to promote a left wing agenda. |
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Post by CRAMBAM on May 25, 2012 7:25:53 GMT -5
That's a big reason I don't buy comics anymore.
I got upset and slowed my buying after they killed off the Golden Age Superman.
But when I saw the way they were changing the costume of Superman, and then having him renounce his American citizenship, that slow down became a permanent boycott.
I'll consider looking at it again if Dan Didio ever leaves DC. But I will not financially support a left wing bastardization of superheroes.
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Post by Mel on May 26, 2012 17:06:17 GMT -5
I'm left of center, but I don't want a gay superhero. I don't want a gay married superhero either. Are any of the other superheroes married??
I'm more shocked to read that Superman renounced his American citizenship. WTF? I don't like the idea at all, but I also don't get it. Clark Kent is the citizen, isn't he? Did Clark Kent renounce his citizenship?? Does Superman vote??
That was over a year ago. Did Superman change his mind? I hope so.
Maybe I didn't pay attention (and that's entirely possible) but I don't recall comic books being this serious and current when I was a kid. It takes a lot of the wonder and joy out of them, I think.
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Post by TrekBeatTK on May 26, 2012 21:21:10 GMT -5
Yes, Reed Richards and Sue Storm are married (Invisible Woman and Mr. Fantastic of the Fantastic 4). Also, Lois and Clark finally got married in the 1990s. ...though I haven't followed the universe and don't know if that was wiped out with the Infinite Crisis.
I think Superman claimed to now belong to the world, which is still silly. It seems the DC staff are the only ones who like that decision.
There were "serious" issues here and there, for example some of the drug issues in Spider-Man and Tony Stark's alcoholism. But comics have grown far more serious since the mid 1980s. Frank Miller's Dark Knight stuff was pretty morose, and then Marvel did a bunch of X-Men stories about AIDS in the 1990s, and it's all spiraled from there.
-TK
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Post by CRAMBAM on May 30, 2012 14:14:34 GMT -5
As far as I know, CLARK KENT did not renounce his citizenship. Superman did, in response to a foreign government perceiving him as a representative of the US.
Terrible decision. They spun it as best as they could, but for the most part, there was backlash, and they made it a point on saying that it was not part of the main storyline. DC backtracked.
But well before that, they had made it a point to drop the American Way part of Truth, Justice, and the American way.
Even in Superman Returns, they made it a point of saying, "truth, justice, and all that other stuff."
I don't know how left of center you are, so it's hard to say.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on May 30, 2012 15:32:29 GMT -5
Back to this nonsense again.
Over at Blastr:Sneak Peek: Marvel's controversial X-Men same-sex wedding comic Last week, not to be outdone by DC's announcement that it's about to turn a character gay, Marvel confirmed its first ever same sex superhero wedding in the pages of Astonishing X-Men #51. Now we've got a sneak peek of the issue, and the wedding guests are gathering. MORE: blastr.com/2012/05/get-a-sneak-peek-at-marve.php
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Post by CRAMBAM on May 30, 2012 21:10:37 GMT -5
I thought Marvel's news actually predated DC's.
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