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Post by StarFuryG7 on Oct 30, 2012 18:33:14 GMT -5
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Oct 30, 2012 23:21:30 GMT -5
I am so mad about this. Disney won't make a John Carter sequel but they'll do unnecessary projects they think will make money. At this late date, there is no way to even do an episode seven effectively. All the original cast have grown too old, so many stories have already been told in the expanded universe.
I might have suspected them doing some more TV with the property, or at least just wanting to make money off the merchandising. But this is one step too far. If the Disney buy means an official release of the Star Wars Holiday Special, then that would be good; but no, it means unnecessary stuff. And it would be the first movie (bar the Clone Wars) to not open with the Fox fanfare and that would be a shame.
I hate that big companies feel the need to own everything. I'm tired of the whole world being run by Warner, Disney and Google. I keep hoping somone quashes this project. It's getting harder and harder to defend Disney; every time they start getting back on track they pull something stupid like this.
At this point, I think George Lucas is just tired of being the whipping boy, and feels like letting someone else take the blame when the next movie is terrible. (though right now he has to bear the "sellout" label.)
Look Disney, if you want to make untold millions on merchandise, comics, video games and an infinite number of DVD releases, fine. But don't go trying to put your stamp on a franchise that needs none of you. It's not what you're good at. There's no story to tell there. And I don't want to live in a world where we might eventually get a Star Wars 12. Somebody kill Episode 7 NOW. I'm using the force, but nothing's happening...
-TK
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Oct 30, 2012 23:29:27 GMT -5
Oh, and dare I ask if this means that Han Solo may end up appearing on "Once Upon a Time"?
I hope Greedo shoots me first.
-TK
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Post by CRAMBAM on Oct 31, 2012 6:27:05 GMT -5
Wow. I had never thought of OUAT ramifications. I would doubt it, but it's something to think about.
The expanded universe is irrelevant as only hardcore fans have read those stories.
The key here is somehow telling a story that follows up Jedi in a way that an audience can handle.
It would be interesting if the Abrams crew bolted from Star Trek to do this.
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Post by captainbasil on Oct 31, 2012 7:07:54 GMT -5
Sure the last 3 Star Wars films utterly sucked, but it's too late to pick up the story of the original characters. Lucas should have done this years ago instead of boring us with tepid prequels. Even the avarice of the Disney Company can't really do any harm to an already ruined franchise.
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Post by CRAMBAM on Oct 31, 2012 13:04:09 GMT -5
Well, if they could go back 50 years or so, they can certainly jump forward 30 years. It depends on the story.
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Oct 31, 2012 22:06:32 GMT -5
I feel a tiny bit better if they base new films on Lucas outlines. A good screenwriter with a Lucas story makes things work (the prequels lacked because they needed rewrites). But I still think they should have just worked this out with Fox instead of complicating everything. And I really don't want to see Luke, Han and Leia recast.
-TK
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Oct 31, 2012 23:54:04 GMT -5
It would be interesting if the Abrams crew bolted from Star Trek to do this. LOL - And that could well happen too, unless Abrams is already locked in contractually for at least one more Trek film after next year's. Abrams has always been upfront about having a preference for "Star Wars".
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Nov 1, 2012 0:08:47 GMT -5
Sure the last 3 Star Wars films utterly sucked, but it's too late to pick up the story of the original characters. Lucas should have done this years ago instead of boring us with tepid prequels. Even the avarice of the Disney Company can't really do any harm to an already ruined franchise. As soon as news broke about Lucas going in the prequel direction back in the 90s, I said it was a big mistake, that it was better to leave the era of Obi-Wan and the Jedi shrouded in the mystique already established by the first three films, but Lucas knew better of course, and we know how all that turned out ultimately. The general consensus is that the prequel trilogy wasn't needed, wasn't that great, and/or was a waste. I wouldn't be surprised if that also factors in to Lucas' decision to sell his company and the rights to "Star Wars", because perhaps he has come to recognize that he could have done better after the first three movies, but didn't.
And I also have to be honest about being more than just a little tired of the PG tone to the SW movies, and unfortunately, we know it won't get any better in that regard with Disney being the company to have acquired it. I think the next movie they put out will make a great deal of money, followed by a loss of interest by scores of theater goers' Once people realize the extent to which SW having been infiltrated by Mickey Mouse, the results probably won't be too pretty I expect.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Nov 1, 2012 0:10:37 GMT -5
Well, if they could go back 50 years or so, they can certainly jump forward 30 years. It depends on the story. I may be mistaken here, but I think they only went back about thirty years, which in itself was ridiculous and didn't fit right.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Nov 1, 2012 0:14:26 GMT -5
By the way, I know I'm the one who started this thread, but I had to do it on my mobile device. Sandy hit here, and it wasn't exactly pretty. There was a bit of a flood, and my Internet and phone access (landline, that is) got knocked out for two days, otherwise I would have posted about this sooner.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Nov 1, 2012 0:24:45 GMT -5
Over at Blastr:Mark Hamill's 1st reaction to new Star Wars: 'What? Are you nuts?!' For the past 24 hours, Star Wars has been the talk of the town. This week, George Lucas surprisingly sold his Lucasfilm to Disney, and revealed plans for another sequel. But before breaking the news to us, he spilled the beans to actors Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher. MORE: blastr.com/2012/10/mark-hamills-first-reacti.php
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Post by CRAMBAM on Nov 1, 2012 6:38:43 GMT -5
The big question for now is how many original Star Wars actors will return, if any?
Disney did very well by the Marvel universe movies, so maybe they can do well here too. That said, I think getting some major Star Wars actors back is very important.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Nov 1, 2012 13:06:02 GMT -5
If this is correct and that's the direction they intend on going, then obviously another actor will be cast to play Luke Skywalker, because Mark Hamill is simply too old to reprise the role at this point, and will be even older when they produce the second and third picture in this new trilogy
Over at Digital Spy:Star Wars Episode 7 story to follow further adventures of Luke Skywalker Thursday, Nov 1 2012, 6:24am EDT | By Simon Reynolds Star Wars Episode 7 will reported follow the further adventures of Luke Skywalker. According to George Lucas's biographer Dale Pollock, the producer mapped out a 12-part story outline for a complete Star Wars narrative arc, with Episode 7, 8 and 9 focusing on Skywalker in his 30s and 40s.
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Post by CRAMBAM on Nov 2, 2012 6:54:10 GMT -5
Focusing on Luke in his 30s and 40s would kind of suck, since it would be hard to recast the role.
I'd rather them focus on Luke in his 50s and 60s. How much different could the story be?
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Post by gavin1701 on Nov 2, 2012 10:32:00 GMT -5
It's possibly one of few franchises were the main character, Luke, isn't as compelling as the other characters -- he was always a bit dull. I always thought Han Solo was the better character and it's a shame Vader is dead. Of course they can have him in carbonite for 30 years and have everyone else appear older. I wonder how this affects the proposed TV series.
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Post by CRAMBAM on Nov 12, 2012 7:40:31 GMT -5
As far as I'm concerned, screw the TV series. Or maybe they can set the series in between episodes 3 and 4, in a dark time when Vader was kicking ass.
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Post by gavin1701 on Nov 12, 2012 9:46:38 GMT -5
I don't care enough about Star Wars to have a preference. I'll watch whatever they do, like the prequels. If it's decent I'll probably watch again. I've never seen the prequels twice
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Nov 16, 2012 19:22:13 GMT -5
Over at Blastr:Carrie Fisher responds to all those rumors about her and Star Wars VII [/i][/b] [/center] Is she or isn't she? Carrie Fisher has officially issued a response to all the reports of her returning as Princess Leia in Star Wars VII. MORE: blastr.com/2012/11/confirmed-carrie-fisher-w.php
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Post by CRAMBAM on Nov 18, 2012 12:30:29 GMT -5
I can't imagine them not appearing, but I wonder what kind of role. It's interesting that Disney seems to EMBRACE their iconic characters and actors, while Paramount shuns them.
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Post by Mel on Nov 19, 2012 11:15:17 GMT -5
I agree with Gavin. Luke was dull. Worse, he didn't age attractively. At the end of the original trilogy, he wasn't a hunk, which was disappointing.
Although Han Solo is a compelling character, I haven't enjoyed a Harrison Ford movie since Air Force One in 1997. That's a long time.
I'd rather see new people cast as Luke, Leia, and Solo, than see the originals reprise their roles for no good reason.
Btw, I don't recognize the cartoon at the top, the round yellow characters at a family BBQ. Who are they? Thanks.
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Nov 19, 2012 11:41:36 GMT -5
Btw, I don't recognize the cartoon at the top, the round yellow characters at a family BBQ. Who are they? Thanks. [/color][/quote] Believe it or not, I think that's Pac-Man, Ms. Pac-Man and their kid. I believe it's from the Pac-Man saturday morning cartoon series of the seventies. -TK
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Post by CRAMBAM on Nov 19, 2012 14:11:48 GMT -5
Actually, the cartoon was from the 1980s, and yes, that is Pacman and family.
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Post by Mel on Nov 20, 2012 2:02:38 GMT -5
Oh, the Pac-Man family! I never would have guessed that. Thanks!
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Nov 21, 2012 1:45:40 GMT -5
Over at Blastr:Look who George Lucas wants to write Star Wars VIII and IX We'd heard that Disney wanted to move fast and furious with the Star Wars franchise, and now it looks like they may have a few writers in mind for the next two installments. Don't worry, sci-fi fans—they're both familiar faces. MORE: blastr.com/2012/11/1-of-these-two-guys-could.php
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Post by CRAMBAM on Nov 21, 2012 7:40:37 GMT -5
Getting a good writer like Kasdan would go a long way in making the fans happy. Writing is everything.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Jan 24, 2013 18:54:50 GMT -5
Oh, for Christ sake ...this was brought to my attention by Wahrheit via email . . .
Over at MSN Entertainment News:
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Jan 24, 2013 19:12:29 GMT -5
Three more articles on this from sources I usually link to here, two of which find it a little more questionable, but are still running with it as pretty much a done deal also nonetheless.
Zap2it.com:Blastr:io9:J.J. Abrams will direct the next Star Wars movieJ.J. Abrams will direct the next Star Wars movie [/img][/center] One of the most coveted and high profile directing gigs has just been reportedly locked down by J.J. Abrams. Sources all over Hollywood are stating that Abrams will direct the next Star Wars movie and that this deal is very close to officially closing.
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Jan 24, 2013 19:37:55 GMT -5
He did recently say that he had turned it down. So...
I mean, I can believe they want him, and frankly he's much more suited to Star Wars than Trek. But it does seem that these sites are always quick to jump on this sort of thing and then a week later (sometimes a day later) it's, "remember that thing we reported yesterday? yeah... that's not happening." So I take this with a shaker full of salt.
Is it too late to get David Lynch? :{D]
-TK
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Jan 25, 2013 17:10:59 GMT -5
:::Sigh:::
Over at io9:Can J.J. Abrams do for Star Wars what he did for Star Trek? And should he? It's hard to overstate how boring Star Trek seemed in 2008. A pointless prequel had sucked the life out of it, the movies were crud, and the whole thing become a source of bland jokes on late-night TV. More » img.gawkerassets.com/img/18cmayspnrbz2jpg/medium_169.jpg
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