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Post by CRAMBAM on Feb 27, 2015 12:40:25 GMT -5
A sad day for Star Trek, as Leonard Nimoy passed away today. I'm guessing it was due to complications from COPD.
Obviously, this man had a profound effect on Star Trek--more so than probably any actor other than Shatner, and arguably equal to that. The two go hand in hand.
I'm very sorry I didn't get the chance to see the two act together one final time, but not meant to be.
He was a great actor, defined Vulcans, and he was very intelligent to the end.
He will be missed.
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Feb 27, 2015 12:50:19 GMT -5
And then there were four.
Yes, it is a sad day in Trekdom. I had a feeling this was coming. His influence in the fields of film, television and even photography is profound and he will be missed.
-TK
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Post by CRAMBAM on Feb 27, 2015 12:57:27 GMT -5
I actually wanted to change the top picture to honor him, but apparently, they changed the way things work on these sites and I can't find where to get that specific.  |
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Post by Mel on Feb 27, 2015 14:06:16 GMT -5
RIP Leonard Nimoy. You will be missed in many ways.
I remember watching him on Mission Impossible, the TV series. It was such a surprise to see him smile frequently. His whole face would light up, and I really enjoyed that, and his character, Paris.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Feb 27, 2015 18:54:59 GMT -5
Guys, I had a feeling when I saw the article early in the week that he had been admitted to the hospital for chest pains, and that this had happened a few times recently, that he was on his way out. This is exactly how one of my neighbors passed recently, under the same kind of circumstances. In fact, my best friend sent me a text that was much like Marc's comment from yesterday here, and I told him I had a feeling he was on his way out. So this hadn't come as a surprise to me frankly, because I sensed it, but it still shook me when the news hit. My friend John was also the one who sent me the news while I was working, again via text message. I mentioned it to a few co-workers, but they had no idea the extent to which it affected me today. I grew up watching Nimoy in the original series. I went to a few conventions he appeared at --as a matter of fact, the last convention I saw him at was in the Hotel right across the street from where I work right now. That Convention was held back in 1991, and it was the last time I saw the man in person. I also got him to crack up laughing on stage --that's a memory I'll always cherish, because he got a huge kick out of my comment. However, I never got to meet him close up and in person, and I regret that now.
I'm going to really miss him. He was a big liberal, but we conservatives have a way of always being able to look passed that when judging people. At times his politics annoyed me, but I've always viewed him as a good man, and I'll always be thankful of the memories I have of having watched him in the show as a kid, and then following his career and checking out many of his other roles through the years. There are some parts he's played in film and and for television that I've never seen and likely never will see, but in a way, I feel like I've lost a friend, strange as it may sound. Life goes on, but his passing is also a reminder of time passing, of getting older, and having to come to grips with the inevitable reality that one day, our time will come also to leave this Earth.
Rest in peace my friend. Rest in peace. And you will be missed.
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Feb 27, 2015 20:55:41 GMT -5
Guys, I had a feeling when I saw the article early in the week that he had been admitted to the hospital for chest pains, and that this had happened a few times recently, that he was on his way out. Yeah, I had a similar feeling. I remember my father talking about when the show was new. Nimoy grew up in Boston, and my dad and his friend looked him up in the phone book. They ended up calling the number and had a little chat with Nimoy's mom. I'm sure she changed numbers not long after. "It is a reminder to me that all things end." - Spock |
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Post by trekkielo on Feb 28, 2015 0:50:23 GMT -5
Rest in peace Leonard Nimoy, my all-time favorite roles with him are as of course Mister Spock on Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, Star Trek III: The Search for Spock, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, Star Trek V: The Final Frontier, Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, Star Trek: The Motion Picture and Star Trek: The Original Series, then also, In Search Of..., Sid Meier's Civilization IV, Mission: Impossible, Columbo along with The Twilight Zone!  "He's really not dead, as long as we remember him." - Doctor Leonard 'Bones' McCoy |
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Post by captainbasil on Mar 2, 2015 8:18:03 GMT -5
I will miss him. I loved him in Trek and Mission Impossible. He was a good Sherlock Holmes too. COPD is a tough way to go. I was happy to hear he passed away at home. He's from my Home State too. Boston born and bred. RIP, Sir !
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Mar 2, 2015 8:31:49 GMT -5
What are peoples thoughts about Shatner missing the funeral?
That is, if you have any, and feel inclined to share them.
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Mar 2, 2015 9:09:45 GMT -5
What are peoples thoughts about Shatner missing the funeral? That is, if you have any, and feel inclined to share them. I understand the position, and I choose not to see anything malicious about it. It's not like he was just playing golf or something. -TK |
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Post by CRAMBAM on Mar 4, 2015 17:49:40 GMT -5
If anything, I got mad at the press for giving him shit over it.
It's not like he was partying in a strip club. He had a charity event, it was 3000 miles away, and he couldn't get a flight. He's an 84 year old man, and no matter how healthy, it was not feasible to ask him to charter a flight that would have to leave at around 3am EST.
Jewish funerals are very fast. It's not about being there for the funeral, it's about showing up for shiva and helping the family, and I'm sure he did that.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Mar 4, 2015 20:57:48 GMT -5
If anything, I got mad at the press for giving him shit over it. It's not like he was partying in a strip club. He had a charity event, it was 3000 miles away, and he couldn't get a flight. He's an 84 year old man, and no matter how healthy, it was not feasible to ask him to charter a flight that would have to leave at around 3am EST. Jewish funerals are very fast. It's not about being there for the funeral, it's about showing up for shiva and helping the family, and I'm sure he did that. Here was my take on it after having given it some thought: https://www.reddit.com/r/startrek/comments/2xm3qz/william_shatner_flies_to_la_in_time_for_leonard/cp1ftmpI was wrong about the casket and how Jewish services are handled for the dearly departed, but what got me about it initially was that I felt if he wanted to get there badly enough, he could have. It would have meant having to catch a Red Eye, and sleeping on the plane back to California for four or five hours, but it probably could have been done. Plus, let's face it --Shatner is well off enough at this stage in his life where he could have chartered a private jet. Limbaugh even said he thought of making EIB-1, his own private jet, available to Shatner to make the trip, but that he didn't want to put any pressure on him supposedly. As for his age, yes, he's 84, Marc, but as you're usually quick to point out, he has more energy than men half his age.  Ultimately though, the timing just obviously sucked. I wish he could have been there though, because he belonged there too with the rest of Leonard's family and friends. |
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Post by captainbasil on Mar 5, 2015 6:38:03 GMT -5
I don't think this funeral thing is anyone's business. Shatner chose to attend a Charity Event he had booked ages ago. Nimoy supported many charities himself. Perhaps Nimoy wouldn't have wanted him to blow off the event. It doesn't matter. Nobody has any right to judge him.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Mar 6, 2015 7:50:52 GMT -5
I don't think this funeral thing is anyone's business. Shatner chose to attend a Charity Event he had booked ages ago. Nimoy supported many charities himself. Perhaps Nimoy wouldn't have wanted him to blow off the event. It doesn't matter. Nobody has any right to judge him. Perhaps, but they're public figures that shared a career that spanned half a century, having worked very closely with each other many times over the course of those years. So I think it's only natural for longtime fans to feel disappointed that Shatner wouldn't make it a point of going to Nimoy's funeral. And while it's true that Nimoy may have told him to do the charity event instead, were he in a position to actually do so, I saw the two of them enough times over the years to know that Nimoy would also never let him forget it ...and what I mean by that is it would have been a means by which to endlessly taunt and tease Shatner over it. 'I worked with this guy for fifty years and he didn't even show up for my funeral!'That's the kind of relationship they had. Nimoy would have said it laughing, but I'd bet anything he would have said it whenever an opportunity arose just to needle him. |
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Post by Mel on Mar 7, 2015 22:21:43 GMT -5
I have no problems with Shatner not attending the funeral. It's how people are treated when they're alive, not dead, that matters.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Mar 10, 2015 0:00:23 GMT -5
I got a kick out of this column last Friday. It was posted to the 'Star Trek' subreddit on Reddit (TK knows the place well, whereas Basil may have forgotten about it by now as far as I can tell), but the moderators there didn't let it stay up long. I question their decision to pull it because even though the author's conclusions are skewed and twisted, he nevertheless knows the source material well enough. I got the impression he's a post-TOS modern Trekker though because his argument and all the examples he cites in making his case are restricted to the feature films and TNG. Nevertheless, it's good for a laugh, but it also shows that he doesn't know the Spock we know from the TV series. Spock had changed when he got older. We see the evolution of the character taking place starting with TMP, even though he's more like the Spock we knew from the show in TWoK. Then his death at the end of that movie slows down his evolution. Anyway, read it, and then maybe we can talk about it some more. |
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Mar 11, 2015 7:13:10 GMT -5
I got a kick out of this column last Friday. It was posted to the 'Star Trek' subreddit on Reddit (TK knows the place well, whereas Basil may have forgotten about it by now as far as I can tell), but the moderators there didn't let it stay up long. I question their decision to pull it because even though the author's conclusions are skewed and twisted, he nevertheless knows the source material well enough. I got the impression he's a post-TOS modern Trekker though because his argument and all the examples he cites in making his case are restricted to the feature films and TNG. Nevertheless, it's good for a laugh, but it also shows that he doesn't know the Spock we know from the TV series. Spock had changed when he got older. We see the evolution of the character taking place starting with TMP, even though he's more like the Spock we knew from the show in TWoK. Then his death at the end of that movie slows down his evolution. Anyway, read it, and then maybe we can talk about it some more. Yeah, he is arguing mainly from the movies onward and this leads to some arguments that are specious. Vulcans can be arrogant, but there's more to Spock than that. However, this really isn't about Spock (though it does sort of misrepresent him), but a clever takedown of Obama which is clever and hilarious. Unfortunately that will probably go right over the heads of those the author is targeting. -TK |
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Post by CRAMBAM on Mar 11, 2015 18:57:27 GMT -5
Just remember, the Jewish religion is such that we get you in the ground very fast. People don't necessarily have the ability to drop everything and go. That's why there is a mourning period with the family that gives people time to pay their respects.
Shatner was in a literal Kobayashi Maru--he either misses the funeral, or the charity event. Either way, he gets bad press. Err on the side of charity.
To spend $30000 to charter a plane, which would require him to travel at an ungodly hour, across country, at 84 years old, to make a 9am funeral would be not only ridiculous, but a waste of money. That money could be donated to a charity instead.
What do you think Nimoy would have wanted?
Shatner made the logical choice.
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Post by captainbasil on Mar 12, 2015 6:42:04 GMT -5
Yes, he did.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Mar 18, 2015 6:36:54 GMT -5
Figured you guys might enjoy this too. Salute to Leonard Nimoy, Raleigh 2015 Wizard World Comic Con |
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