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Post by Mel on Mar 24, 2015 19:32:48 GMT -5
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Mar 24, 2015 22:01:18 GMT -5
I'm glad after years of speculation and delay about a third movie or reunion of some kind this is finally happening. I'm also happening that they don't seem to be going the Netflix route, which is happening all too often these days. What I'd like to see from these new episodes is: A wrap-up to the 2012 alien invasion storyline. I'd especially love to see this set in 2012, rather than present-day. Doggett and Reyes back in at least minor roles. The second movie gave us no indication what happened with them after the series. I'd love for the "Samantha is dead" thing to be retconned out, since it was itself a retcon and I hate it. But that probably won't happen. While I love the series, and I'm glad for another 6 episodes, I don't want it to keep coming back for scattered episodes forever. It's good to give it the final closure that it never got, but that's all. The 24 revival was good in that it brought Jack to a better place than he was at the end of the series, but then it ended all weird again. Can poor Jack never go home to his family??? I don't want to see a crazy open-ended finale like that for Mulder and Scully again. A shame there will probably be no Vince Gilligan involvement since he's deep into Better Call Saul, as well as Battle Creek. -TK |
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Post by captainbasil on Mar 25, 2015 6:44:46 GMT -5
I'm neutral on this. I think it's been too long and they kind of messed with the show the last couple of seasons. I will certainly try it.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Mar 25, 2015 7:03:13 GMT -5
I posted an article link about this on my board yesterday, and even shared some thoughts. I'm bummed that it's only six episodes. While it's true that a lot can be done in four and a half hours (minus commercials), it's only enough to whet the appetite for more in my view if you're a fan of the show.
I also think that with their having been away from this series for so long, Chris Carter and whichever of his old writing team he manages to pull together should have some fresh ideas and things to say, even though people that hated their last movie might well feel otherwise. But I liked the standalone episodes in this series, and those are where 'The X-Files' had a tendency to shine. The ongoing alien and conspiracy threads were okay, but could have been better had Carter and his team not just been winging the whole thing all the way through, which hurt the series in my view.
But six episodes? Honestly, that's shit. Even eight episodes would have been better, which was what 'Black Sails' started with last year for its first season on STARZ before bumping it up to ten in its second season. And that's premium cable, where there aren't any commercials, and an hour per episode usually means an hour.
I also wouldn't be surprised if the reason they're only doing six is because of David Duchovny and his not really being interested in doing any more than that, as it's usually been due to him when this series has had to either cut back or try and insert new characters to take his place, They say that he and Gillian Anderson are 'too busy' to do more currently, but I'm not buying it. Work is work, and if they were given an opportunity to do more episodes, then the two of them could pull back on their other commitments for the time being. So once again, I blame Duchovny for this.
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Mar 25, 2015 9:29:55 GMT -5
I also wouldn't be surprised if the reason they're only doing six is because of David Duchovny and his not really being interested in doing any more than that, as it's usually been due to him when this series has had to either cut back or try and insert new characters to take his place, They say that he and Gillian Anderson are 'too busy' to do more currently, but I'm not buying it. Work is work, and if they were given an opportunity to do more episodes, then the two of them could pull back on their other commitments for the time being. So once again, I blame Duchovny for this. Sure, more than six episodes would be great. Wouldn't surprise me if some of that is Fox being a little gun shy after the low returns on the second movie (which I quite liked for what it was). After the delays and such I'm glad they finally greenlit anything but maybe they wanted to hedge their bets. Also, if the cast is to blame, I'm more inclined to blame Anderson than Duchovny just because her schedule is far more busy than Duchovny's right now. So maybe it was contingent on what they could work around for her. I know Duchovny dropped out of the last couple years of the series, but since then he's always spoken about being open to coming back. That said, most of that talk was for a movie, which I think he'd prefer over another series commitment. So it is also possible he didn't want too large a commitment. Are they filming in Vancouver? That's one reason Duchovny tired of the series as it kept him away from his family in LA for so long and eventually got the series production moved to LA. I don't know; I'm not ready to jump on the "let's blame David" for this bandwagon without a little more information. I'm just glad to see anything finally coming of this. I also wonder if the new series will canonize the "Season 10" comic books. |
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Mar 25, 2015 17:34:02 GMT -5
I don't know; I'm not ready to jump on the "let's blame David" for this bandwagon without a little more information. I'm just glad to see anything finally coming of this. Here is what was in the back of my mind earlier, and why I have no qualms about attributing it to Duchovny. However, there is a catch — he doesn’t want to return to the 20something-episode seasons of yore. “We’ll see what form, how many (episodes),” he said. “Certainly I can’t nor would I be interested in doing a full season. It will be in some kind of limited form. We’re all old, we don’t have the energy for a full season.”www.slashfilm.com/david-duchovny-x-files-return/So there he is speaking as their front man, the first to talk about not wanting a full season commitment, and wanting it to be less rather than more. So we get six measly episodes. And as you pointed out in your post, when the series was in production they actually relocated from shooting in Vancouver to LA to accommodate him. The fact is, it's always been him that they've had to move mountains to accommodate, not Gillian Anderson. And maybe there was a general agreement among everyone involved that they wouldn't want to take on a full season, by they may have been willing to do half that were it not for him more than likely, that's why I'm not inclined to cut him any slack anymore, because he's always been the main problem for that series with respect to getting things done. |
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Mar 25, 2015 21:55:13 GMT -5
And I figured he probably said as much. Episodic television is a GRIND. It's shooting a movie in 8 days. And he's already done 7 years of it for X-Files, plus Californication. He wants more of a movie schedule and I don't blame him. So I totally understand him not wanting to do a full season and as I said, he was always on board when it was a movie or something; I never expected them to do a full season and I know he wouldn't want to. (Part of why we lost Chevy Chase from Community were similar complaints about the long hours. But Dan Harmon was also a dick about Chevy so I don't totally blame him.)
But while that's certainly a reason it's not a series renewal or a full 20 episodes or something, it also doesn't mean he's the sole reason it is only six as opposed to 8 or 10. I think there are still other concerns beyond just David.
I think one movie may have been too little, and another full season is unnecessary. I want something like a miniseries, and this is about right. Even if we keep getting 5-8 episodes every now and then, that's pretty good. Agent Carter was solid for 8 weeks. I can understand your feelings that six episodes seems a little light. But I'll remain cautiously optimistic and I still feel like there are corporate concerns behind it more than just Duchovny's wants.
-TK
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Jun 4, 2015 17:21:49 GMT -5
LMAO - Doesn't this figure? I hated that episode. They're trying to resurrect the show, and they want to do it with this as their second episode? Wrong --this will turn people off because it's guaranteed to be disgusting like the original episode, and that's not something people want to watch and look at ...at least not most people anyway. So the concerns previously expressed here were apparently on the right track and correct unfortunately. |
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Jun 5, 2015 17:06:56 GMT -5
LMAO - Doesn't this figure? I hated that episode. They're trying to resurrect the show, and they want to do it with this as their second episode? Wrong --this will turn people off because it's guaranteed to be disgusting like the original episode, and that's not something people want to watch and look at ...at least not most people anyway. So the concerns previously expressed here were apparently on the right track and correct unfortunately. Just shows how out of touch Morgan and Wong are now, which is sad. Then again, there is a vocal section of the fanbase that loves the episode (though I think the notoriety of it having been banned for so long has something to do with that), so maybe this is just pandering to the audience. Either way, maybe it will surprise me but I agree this seems the wrong direction. -TK |
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