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Post by StarFuryG7 on May 14, 2022 1:15:13 GMT -5
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Post by StarFuryG7 on May 14, 2022 23:06:47 GMT -5
Okay, so...I just watched it, and suffice it say...No, I didn't care for it.
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Post by TrekBeatTK on May 17, 2022 21:09:16 GMT -5
Okay, so...I just watched it, and suffice it say...No, I didn't care for it. I watched it too. I liked some of it, and was less offended by it than Disco, but there was still a lot that bothered me, especially things very easy to get write. Maybe I’ll do a full spoilery review later, but for now I will just say that Anson Mount is the best thing there but he can’t carry the show alone, and that it’s clear nobody on staff knows how to write Spock. That scene on Vulcan made no sense and was an embarrassment. You can see the disconnect between the designers and the writers on this show. We get a costume very reminiscent of Amok Time in a scene that completely ignores everything about that story. The episode also basically just rehashed elements of Generations and Taste of Armageddon and Piece of the Action. Felt almost like an Orville episode that Kurtzman peed on before it went to air., |
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Post by StarFuryG7 on May 22, 2022 0:40:06 GMT -5
The episode also basically just rehashed elements of Generations and Taste of Armageddon and Piece of the Action. Felt almost like an Orville episode that Kurtzman peed on before it went to air., Yeah, that's a pretty biting take in brief. We had similar reactions to it. Yes, Anson Mount is the best thing about the show apparently, but I'm sick of the wokeness in today's entertainment, and I will not tolerate watching the trashing of people like me that are supporters of Trump and the Trump agenda. But that wasn't the only thing that bothered me about it. I could pick at it like a scab if I were to feel like taking the time to outline all the problems I had with it from start to finish. They want to make a prequel series in which they seem to pay attention to key aspects of the canon lore, but also cavalierly disregard what they wish to and replace it with what they want to. Again, at best, we're looking at yet another alternate, parallel universe here even if we were to wish to be charitable about it all. Mount makes a pretty good Pike, and there's a passing resemblance to Jeffrey Hunter to boot, which was also why his being cast in the role was basically serendipity for him I suppose (he has previously spoken about his love of the franchise), but I would have so many issues with the production were I in his shoes that there's no way I'd be able to hang in there long at all, even as the supposed *'white savior'* lead of the series (hey, this is the way these leftists think, so why shouldn't I throw that in their faces?). Peck is trying to *grow* into the role of Spock, and I do give him credit for making the effort. He has studied Nimoy's performances in the original series in hopes of vocalizing to sound more like him. His appearance, however, is very different from Nimoy, and with Spock being such an iconic character, it may be tough to adjust to him in the role, at least for some people (mainly us older veteran viewers of the franchise). But then there's the writers, as you alluded to, which are another hurdle. I found the ending of the episode utterly ridiculous. I was also annoyed at their trying to pass off the January 6th Capitol riot as the start of World War III. And did you happen to catch the hairdo on the Eldredthean leader? Tell me that too wasn't intended to mock Trump. I'm tired of these people. We live in a free country in which one party is trying to turn the other party and its supporters into enemies of the state, and I'll be damned if I'm going to sit there, and pay extra no less by subscribing to a streaming platform in order to watch this drivel so they can drop their deranged contempt at me on the screen. |
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Post by TrekBeatTK on May 22, 2022 19:44:59 GMT -5
I was also annoyed at their trying to pass off the January 6th Capitol riot as the start of World War III. Absolutely. Even leaving aside the eyerolling politics of it, the Eugenics Wars canonically begin in the late 1990s because Kahn is GONE by 1996. So there is NO WAY that they start in 2020. Further, it's canonical that World War III was a conflict with the East. There is no way that begins with a second American civil war. And if there's to be a second civil war, why would it begin with a relatively peaceful protest and "riot" and not when, you know, the fiery race riots of the prior summer? So it's bad politics AND bad Trek history so it fails on both counts. Which is a shame because with a minor rewrite Pike's underlying point still holds and the scene plays fine. It was too on-the-nose while being simultaneously foolish. I also just generally felt that for a premiere episode it was a huge mistake to make so many callbacks to the events of Discovery season 2. While I like seeing Dr. M'Benga again, I don't understand the accent and I HATE everything about Nurse Chapel. Whoever that character was was nothing like Christine Chapel. And what was with her hair? I said on another forum she looked like she just rolled out of bed onto a grease fire. And while it's nice to see Uhura, she's in the wrong color (her first two appearances she was in gold. but again, the producers aren't nerds like us), and... well... she's not pretty enough. I don't want to denigrate the actress, and I'm sure she'd be fine in any role on the show, but Uhura is glamorous and kind of vain about it. I'm cool with her having natural hair though, because I'd like to see more of that on TV and because Nichelle did in TMP. |
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Post by CRAMBAM on May 28, 2022 11:01:43 GMT -5
Not ready to watch it yet. Working on The Orville. Plus, I want to time it so that when I get a month of Paramount Plus, it will be 4 weeks before the finale. Efficiency.
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Post by Mel on Jun 2, 2022 1:47:03 GMT -5
I watched the first episode of SNW. The ship interior is beautiful. I also enjoyed Anson Mount in the role of Pike (if that's his real hair, it’s glorious).
Spock being glad (for lack of a less emotional word) that his girlfriend finally proposed to him was completely out of place. Totally jarring. I was glad to read above about the things the actor is doing to make his character seem like the real Spock.
Seeing so many female officers is jarring. It gives the phrase, “A good man is hard to find“ a new meaning. Why aren't the sexes more equally represented? This is a backwards step.
I don't mind a black April. Have we seen him before? I thought I'd read it was just his voice in a Trek cartoon. He could have been black back then.
I didn't notice the bit about January 6 being the start of WWIII (sometimes I get stuck trying to figure out words previously said but not captioned; sometimes my mind wanders). Since that's how it was used, I don't like it either.
As for non-binary people, I don't get that in the real world. I don't get it here. It's too confusing. I'm too old for this crap.
This is, “We meant well but went too far,” Trek. It’s not the kind of Trek I'll go out of my way to watch. Besides, I canceled Paramount.
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Jun 5, 2022 20:28:45 GMT -5
I will say, after all the nonsense about leaking that they'd be casting Kirk for this show, I was glad to find it was a bait and switch and that it's Kirk's brother that's on the show. That being said, I thought "only you" (Jim) called him Sam. Shouldn't he be going by George on this show, or at least introduced that way and then "Please call me Sam"?
Says everything about how this show is written: one nod to canon with one oversight. repeat and repeat.
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Post by CRAMBAM on Jul 22, 2022 11:52:26 GMT -5
I have now watched the first 2 episodes. I thought the second episode was better than the first.
The pilot's use of January 6 was disgusting. There were some continuity issues as well, notably Spock and T'Pring as well as the fact that only Jim Kirk called his brother Sam.
I think the point about Uhura not being pretty enough is fair. Uhura did have vanity about her looks. This actress is nowhere near as attractive as Nichols or Saldana.
But I like her portrayal of Uhura. The second episode spotlighted her nicely. The ONLY critique I have is her looks.
I thought the second episode was better than the first.
For one, no stupid January 6 crap.
But more than that, it got down to a good story with some action, but ultimately, it was the characters' brains that solved the problem of the week. Uhura really shined in this episode and the insecurity she showed was due to her age. That said, they took notice of her brilliance at languages, something the original series implied but never spotlighted enough.
She's not the badass she would become, but you see the seeds.
As for Sam Kirk, this is a different actor than the guy cast as Jim Kirk, so it wasn't a bait and switch. I'm guessing we will see Jim in season 2 with a cameo in season 1.
I just want them to treat the legacy characters correctly. Aside from physical looks, I'm ok with Uhura.
Chapel? Very out of character so far.
But the show is MUCH better than Discovery.
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Post by CRAMBAM on Jul 25, 2022 15:08:09 GMT -5
Four episodes in now, and they are definitely keeping their word about self contained episodes. I think this one was more of a humor episode. But it's almost as if they need to branch this show off into another universe. Too many continuity issues, notably with Chapel. They should have made the actress Yeoman Colt. Here we have a good character, a good actress, and she's well written, but because she is so out of character for Nurse Chapel, it's distracting. If the character was named, Jane Smith, there's no issue.
SPOILERS....
I feel like they are taking a lot of liberties with canon. I haven't watched Amok Time in awhile, but was there anything in there that indicated that Spock hadn't seen T'Pring since they were children? Why did Spock only have a child picture of her if that weren't the case? And on this show, Vulcans are acting very human in their relationships, especially the physical parts. Again, wouldn't be a big deal, but for canon.
How hard is it to NOT have Spock get involved in relationships. Plus, he is developing a friendship with Chapel that is beyond what we saw in TOS.
I'm trying to ignore canon and enjoy the show, but it is distracting for a long time fan. Taking on Pike should require the writers to be more clever with continuity. There are some good nods to TOS, but it could be better.
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Post by CRAMBAM on Jul 29, 2022 14:03:28 GMT -5
I've now watched all of the Strange New Worlds episodes. Overall I liked the show. It avoided the woke nonsense the other shows have embraced. But the continuity issues are rough in spots.
Loved the finale.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Jul 29, 2022 20:18:59 GMT -5
I can't look past that series premiere. It was just more of the usual anti-Trump TDS bullcrap that we've been seeing for the last five years, and I smelled more wokeness to come in it. I cannot and will not support the left with my money any longer. I'm done with them and their derision and their talking down to the right, and their supreme and disgusting smugness. Not one more penny.
No more.
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