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Post by Mel on Feb 1, 2023 14:49:17 GMT -5
I came across an article about the development of Star Trek: First Contact. The link is below. It says that the movie takes place roughly in the same time frame as DS9. How can that be right? In DS9, humans were on a deep space station. How did they get there around that time, when this movie is about us first getting off the planet for a very short time? When did you guys think DS9 took place? I did a quick search. It seems DS9 took place around 2369-2375. I guess the article is way wrong. What sites do you like to visit for reading things about Trek? Thanks. screenrant.com/star-trek-first-contact-movie-trivia-facts/#notable-cameos
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Post by CRAMBAM on Feb 1, 2023 17:07:38 GMT -5
I think they mean that at the beginning of the movie, when the Borg attacked, before they went back in time, they were in the same era as DS9. Wasn't Worf originally on the Defiant, which was badly damaged in the battle?
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Post by Mel on Feb 1, 2023 18:09:52 GMT -5
Ah, the very beginning. I overlooked that! Thanks for pointing it out. And yes, Worf was with them because the USS Defiant was damaged. I recently watched ST:FC again, if you're wondering why I'm wondering about this.
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Post by CRAMBAM on Feb 7, 2023 8:36:29 GMT -5
I haven't watched it in years. I still consider it the most overrated Star Trek movie. It was just the only TNG movie that didn't completely suck.
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Post by CRAMBAM on Feb 16, 2023 22:35:46 GMT -5
Scrolling through videos the other day, I came across a video of the early part of First Contact, where Picard and crew decided to join the battle against Starfleet orders.
It was such a poorly written scene that tried to make Picard and his crew more like Kirk's crew, as they disobeyed stupid orders. But those orders were nonsensical. You don't take away your best weapon in a fight for your existence. If they felt Picard shouldn't be there, they should have relieved him from command and sent the Enterprise. Because those orders made no sense, it was hardly a moment where the audience should cheer.
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Post by Mel on Mar 10, 2023 2:50:22 GMT -5
Scrolling through videos the other day, I came across a video of the early part of First Contact, where Picard and crew decided to join the battle against Starfleet orders. It was such a poorly written scene that tried to make Picard and his crew more like Kirk's crew, as they disobeyed stupid orders. But those orders were nonsensical. You don't take away your best weapon in a fight for your existence. If they felt Picard shouldn't be there, they should have relieved him from command and sent the Enterprise. Because those orders made no sense, it was hardly a moment where the audience should cheer. Just read this, or, given my age, I seemed brand new when I read it. At any rate, I agree. It didn't make sense to keep them out of the fight. And they were the most knowledgeable crew. I hadn't thought of the idea of relieving Picard and letting the others fight, but that makes sense. If Picard and Worf knew each other (I forget), it might have been fun to have Picard recruit Worf to join the battle, rather than have his ship break down. According to some at Reddit though, they thought it would have made more sense for Sisko to join the battle. Some said Sisko was busy, but maybe they could have changed the date line.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Mar 10, 2023 8:14:42 GMT -5
Scrolling through videos the other day, I came across a video of the early part of First Contact, where Picard and crew decided to join the battle against Starfleet orders. It was such a poorly written scene that tried to make Picard and his crew more like Kirk's crew, as they disobeyed stupid orders. But those orders were nonsensical. You don't take away your best weapon in a fight for your existence. If they felt Picard shouldn't be there, they should have relieved him from command and sent the Enterprise. Because those orders made no sense, it was hardly a moment where the audience should cheer. Funny --Last night I watched the scene outside the ship when Picard, Worf and Hawk were battling the Borg as they tried to make contact with their race in the future. I then sent the YouTube link to that scene to one of my bosses whose balls I like to bust by sending him Trek links, and to my best friend. Watching TNG scenes on YouTube is something I only very rarely do, so this is a rather strange coincidence that I would then come here this morning only to see this thread about it. Just too weird.
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Post by CRAMBAM on Mar 12, 2023 16:31:32 GMT -5
I haven't watched the movie in years. I don't care about the TNG movies since Generations screwed things up so badly. Hawk was played by Neal McDonough, who is a phenomenal actor. Everything he does is awesome. He should be more famous than he is.
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Post by Mel on Mar 16, 2023 2:37:09 GMT -5
I watched Minority Report the other day. Neal McDonough is in it.
I checked IMDB. He's in 143 productions! I've seen several, but most I haven't seen. I certainly recall his intense blue eyes though.
My memory isn't great, but thinking about this, a thought popped up. Way back when, McDonough had been in the running for the lead in Firefly. That's a show all of you were into way before me. I recall that, when I started watching FF, I was glad McDonough didn't get the lead. That said, I haven't cared for Nathan Fillion in his non-SF shows.
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Post by CRAMBAM on Mar 20, 2023 17:13:53 GMT -5
McDonough doesn't do anything bad ever. He has been in so many things I have watched, from the Arrowverse, where he was incredible, to 9-1-1 Lonestar, where he was again, incredible. He was in a few Marvel movies.
Desperate Housewives. Always awesome.
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