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Post by Mel on Feb 23, 2023 12:49:05 GMT -5
I found it interesting to read that, behind the scenes, Fox owners and newscasters knew that there wasn't any fraud in the Biden Trump election, that Biden legitimately won, and Trump lost. The Dominion law suit has uncovered comments and notes made behind the scenes by the newscasters and owners, showing that they knew that Fox was promoting lies. Fox owners did it because they knew it was what their audience wanted to hear. Tucker Carlson said he didn't like lying to his audience, because he knew they believed his lies, and he thought they should know the truth, that they could handle it. It's even more interesting that, since this has been uncovered because of the Dominion law suit, Fox made the decision to not report it to their viewers, deciding to let them remain in the dark about how they had been deliberately misled. There are lots of news sources about this. Below are just some of them, including the a consolidated court document. It seems likely that Dominion will win the lawsuit; it asked for $1.6 billion dollars. As of January, Fox was worth $17.8 billion. www.npr.org/2023/02/18/1157972219/fox-news-election-fraud-claims-vs-what-they-knewwww.documentcloud.org/documents/23684956-2023-02-16-redacted-dominion-opening-sj-brief-18www.nbcnews.com/media/private-fox-news-stars-staff-blasted-election-fraud-claims-bogus-court-rcna71123 |
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Post by CRAMBAM on Feb 25, 2023 14:30:12 GMT -5
I still find it very hard to believe that Biden got more votes than anyone in history when no one likes him. He excited no one. And there were way too many mysterious overnight ballot dumps.
It's 2023. They should be able to instantaneously get us the results. They can do that in American Idol for crying out loud.
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Post by Mel on Feb 27, 2023 14:40:11 GMT -5
I voted for Biden because he was a Dem and because I don't like Trump. I have voted Republican in the past, when I liked that person better than the Dem who was running.
I think there was an outpouring of votes from people who didn't like Trump's ways of doing things, which would obviously include a lot of independents and Reps. I think "lack of excitement" was a big selling factor; someone boring who obeys the law was preferred for the top position in the nation.
Getting votes automatically for American Idol?? I don't watch the show. Is that across the country? How many questions are asked? I assume it's an electronic vote.
On our ballots, there are lots of questions, different for each state. It's not just one ballot for president. They're mailed in, not electronic. That takes time to get where it's going, to be moved to where it will be counted, and verified, and so on. I can't imagine getting that done in one night, even if the presidential ballot were by itself. And I think an electronic vote would be far easier to manipulate (defraud) than all those hand-written and hand-cast ballots.
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Post by Mel on Feb 28, 2023 2:23:06 GMT -5
I still find it very hard to believe that Biden got more votes than anyone in history when no one likes him. He excited no one. And there were way too many mysterious overnight ballot dumps. I came back to point something out: Don't think of it as "more votes than anyone in history" FOR someone no one likes (Biden). Think of it as, more votes in history AGAINST someone they no longer trusted (Trump). Trump was trying to arrange it so that state legislatures could invalidate the votes cast by the state population, and let legislators vote instead. That's wrong. Biden spoke briefly about it and said that people could stop it. Go vote. That said, some of us appreciate and trust Biden because he obeys the law. Trump doesn't give a damn about the law. Lastly, there were no " mysterious overnight ballot dumps." They were legitimate ballots being dropped off for counting. I won't be surprised if Dominion gets a statement (written or otherwise) to that effect from the Fox owners. |
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Feb 28, 2023 8:29:53 GMT -5
I still find it very hard to believe that Biden got more votes than anyone in history when no one likes him. He excited no one. And there were way too many mysterious overnight ballot dumps. It's 2023. They should be able to instantaneously get us the results. They can do that in American Idol for crying out loud. Biden campaigned out of his basement, and the few appearances he made toward the end of the campaign couldn't draw flies, and the same goes for his running mate. The Democrats ran around using left-wing activist judges in the battleground states to illegally change election laws, making it oh so easy to cheat and stuff the ballot boxes with illegal fraudulent ballots. They used the corrupt process of ballot harvesting wherever they could, all the while using the Covid pandemic as their excuse and justification for engaging in all of that chicanery, and were allowed to get away with it all with little to no pushback because the Republican party is a weak party made up mostly of total wimps that afraid of their own shadows. Biden didn't win. They pulled every dirty trick they could to oust Trump, and yet look at what they've done to the country since. Are we stronger in the world than before this Manchurian imposter was imposed on the country against its will? Is the economy flourishing and better than it was, or is it worse? Was all the blood of American soldiers abroad for naught in the end, or was it a victorious end to hostilities finally? Have America's foreign adversaries become stronger and more threatening since BiteMe came into office, or less so? And what about the southern, and now northern, borders and the hundreds of thousands of invaders flooding into the country each and every month? Is that better or worse under this poser, and who was responsible for making it that way? Food prices, gas prices, inflation in general - are you really better off than you were two years ago? All of these answers are obvious. So I say to the dirt bags who wanted all this - You wanted it, you got it! It's just too bad the rest of us have to suffer along with you jackasses. |
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Post by CRAMBAM on Mar 1, 2023 16:28:02 GMT -5
People don't go out to vote against people in those historic numbers, and yes, every close state seemed to flip in the middle of the night. It was like they were counting until they won. There is certainly enough to question it when there was virtually no support for Biden, while there was enthusiastic support for Trump.
And why does it take so long to tally votes? There is certainly enough suspicion to question the result, and that's without factoring the blatant interference by the media and companies like Twitter and Facebook.
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Post by Mel on Mar 3, 2023 9:27:47 GMT -5
I come from a big family living in several states throughout the US. Granted, two generations of us are pretty much gone (grandparents and parents) but there are lots of offspring who went forth and multiplied. As mentioned, they are more conservative than liberal.
Many of them were alarmed at the idea of having their vote rendered meaningless. They highly prize being able to cast their own vote, and have it matter. They didn't like the idea that, after voting, legislatures could invalidate their votes. They also didn't take to the idea of changing, so profoundly, how our government functions. Steps had already been taken to make this possible in some states. And that alarmed voters.
Not to mention all the other things going on: Inhumane things like making people stand in long lines without being able to leave to use the restroom or get a drink of water; and restricting voting places where a majority of non-Caucasian cast their votes, by making the voting places open late, close early, and not operate on a weekend. And so on.
Label Biden how you want, ineffectual, boring, etc. But his team created an ad (just 20 seconds as I recall) that was effective. He briefly stated the problem, and briefly stated the solution: Go vote.
For those who were alarmed at the possibility of losing their right to cast a vote *and* have it matter, that resonated with them profoundly.
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Post by CRAMBAM on Mar 8, 2023 17:54:47 GMT -5
But if that were the case, why are they against things like voter ID? And why did it take so long to count the votes? If having votes count is so important, then it also matters what happens after you cast the vote--which is how they are counted.
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Post by Mel on Mar 10, 2023 2:05:52 GMT -5
But if that were the case, why are they against things like voter ID? And why did it take so long to count the votes? Who is against voter ID? I was talking about my conservative relatives. And why did it take so long to count the votes? More votes than ever before, as you said. It makes sense that it took longer than ever to count them. If having votes count is so important, then it also matters what happens after you cast the vote--which is how they are counted. Yes. It matters. It has always mattered. It has always been handled legally and with care. Until Trump started spouting lies, people trusted our voting system. Trump, Fox News, Fox staff, and others, have done so much damage to the country, creating such distrust about our voting system. Please see the next post. |
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Post by Mel on Mar 10, 2023 2:10:28 GMT -5
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Post by CRAMBAM on Mar 12, 2023 16:34:39 GMT -5
It still doesn't mean that the election was legit. There were so many wrongful actors that had little to do with election day, like Google, Facebook, Twitter, the media. All suppressing bad stories for Biden while demonizing Trump, who based on his record, should have had a Reagan like landslide re-election. ESPECIALLY with such an incompetent opponent.
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