24

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I really hate that Braga is involved in one of my favorite current shows. The good news is that while the writing has noticeably declined, there are still enough talented writers in that room so that the show hasn't completely tanked.

Braga's name has been on some of the worst episodes of the year, and it's interesting how he can't even write his name without Manny Coto getting co-credit.

Some of the more boring episodes earlier in the season were written by Braga and Coto.

And in my opinion, the worst episode of 24 history was a Bragarian brainchild as well. In it, a small group of terrorists managed to not only invade the White House, but CAPTURE THE PRESIDENT.

I realize that you have to suspend disbelief on this show, and I do that every week gladly. But holy crap that was terrible.

The next few episodes were better, though noticeable absent was "written by Manny Coto & Brannon Braga."

Last night, another episode was only so-so. Not great. Not the worst.

That said, I look forward to Braga moving on to some other project next year.

I'm expecting an announcement that he will take over Smallville any day.

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Forgot to mention--

I rolled my eyes with last night's episode, where the President was contemplating naming Rick Berman as the new Chief of Staff. Made me mad.

[Jor-El]

Braga's name has been on some of the worst episodes of the year......
.....I'm expecting an announcement that he will take over Smallville any day. --Crambam--

And I thought reading the news woulkd give me nightmares....

--Gary 7--

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And I thought reading the news woulkd give me nightmares....

By the way, on this board, there is actually some more features if you click on reply under the last post rather than post in the QUICK REPLY section. One such feature is the ability to quote.

[Jor-El]

Apr 1, 2009 6:05:44 GMT -5 CRAMBAM said:

And I thought reading the news woulkd give me nightmares....

By the way, on this board, there is actually some more features if you click on reply under the last post rather than post in the QUICK REPLY section. One such feature is the ability to quote.

Hey, thanks!

--Gary 7--

[TrekBeatTK]

This President's Day, I took the opportunity to do something I've wanted to do for a long time: watch an entire season of 24 more or less in "real time". I never saw the first season when it aired (I came in on season 2), and even on DVD had only watched maybe a third of it. So this was a fun experience. The worst part about it is having seen later seasons I know how it ends. So I'm waiting and waiting and waiting for the Nina reveal. I wonder how much of the season's story they had mapped out when they shot the pilot because there are all these little looks Nina keeps giving which they try to play off as being about Teri, but I wonder if it was clear foreshadowing. It's a weird story thread with her, since she seems so reasonable for so much of the season, almost too much so. I also don't really understand what her endgame was ever going to be. It does feel like in the middle of the season they try too hard to keep us from suspecting her, after making her the obvious suspect in the beginning and then diffusing it. And then there's the death of Teri Bauer which I hate. I just hate it. When you spend an entire day with these people and they can never reunite, it stinks that it ends how it does. I also don't think it makes sense. Why would Nina tie her up just to shoot her? She could have shot her before if she wanted her dead. I thought she tied her up because she didn't want to kill her. Otherwise, why wouldn't she have just wasted her like the guard or the janitor? To then shoot her anyway after saying she wasn't going to was stupid and pointless. EVEN if she were shot and survived but lost the baby I might have been okay with it, I just sort of hate how it ended that way.

Like all 24, there were those points where they didn't know what to do with a character which always means they turn out to be an imposter, and/or they die. Nobody just goes home and takes a nap. If you're not important anymore, they kill you. The whole silly twist with Janet's dad being an imposter just makes no sense at all when you stop and think about it. But there was less of that sort of writing in this first season then later on.

I really appreciated that people slept (or at least tried to) from time to time this season, which never happens again. At one point, Teri even leaves the room to pee. Jack Bauer must be the most constipated character on television! These believability factors get just plain ridiculous in later seasons where at least they were trying here. I still sort of wish they had done something where someone goes home to sleep and we don't see them for 9 episodes.

I forgot what a bitch Sherry Palmer was!

Anyway, I only watched seasons 2-6 of 24, so maybe I'll slowly find time to plow through each season this way. I'd like to see it all again before "Live Another Day" starts up.

-TK

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I could never do that, but it's funny you mentioned this since I am working my way through season 1 myself. Great minds.

I wouldn't do it in one day, but I will finish season one well before May hits.

Fortunately, I had seen it when it first airs so no spoilers were in your post.

I'm at the point where Jamie slits her wrists.

I barely remember much, but that makes it fun too.

The twist with Janet's dad was to show that it was always in the plan to kidnap Teri and Kim. They were so well planned that getting Kim to sneak out was part of it, and a fake Janet's dad would be used to kill Janet and get Teri.

[TrekBeatTK]

Feb 19, 2014 10:22:48 GMT -5 CRAMBAM said:

I could never do that, but it's funny you mentioned this since I am working my way through season 1 myself. Great minds.

I wouldn't do it in one day, but I will finish season one well before May hits.

Fortunately, I had seen it when it first airs so no spoilers were in your post.

I'm at the point where Jamie slits her wrists.

I barely remember much, but that makes it fun too.

The twist with Janet's dad was to show that it was always in the plan to kidnap Teri and Kim. They were so well planned that getting Kim to sneak out was part of it, and a fake Janet's dad would be used to kill Janet and get Teri.

I may not do all seasons in one day, but it was a fun experiment. I finally conked out just before the last hour though, and had to finish in the morning.

The thing with Janet's dad makes no sense to me when I consider that Janet wasn't their target. Their target was Kim and maybe also Teri (it's somewhat unclear to me whether the plan was always to take both or if Teri was a contingency plan) in order to force Jack to help kill Palmer. But Janet was just an actual friend of Kim's. She was a means toward getting Kim abducted, but not much more. Dan had drugged Janet pretty heavily; maybe they intended to just dump her somewhere later. Given how events played out, I sort of doubt the plan was always to kill Janet. But even if it were, why use a fake father? Wouldn't her real father be just as worried? Why go to all that trouble to lure Teri out of the house and go on that wild goose chase, then hang around the hospital where the imposter does a wonderful acting job of being concerned, etc.? Why not just have some guy claiming to be Janet's dad call Teri, come over to the Bauer house, and abduct Teri there? Why go through all the extra trouble? On top of that, they went to the bother of removing fingerprints and teeth to keep the dad's body from being identified right away. WHY? That whole twist just smacked of "we don't know what to do with him anymore, so we'll say he's been dead this whole time". It feels like a lot of extra work for them to go through just to get Teri. I suppose maybe they'd have to kill Janet because she knew too much, which means killing her dad so he doesn't go looking for her (but that really only works if they intended to kill Teri and Kim all along). Even then though, I don't see the point of letting the charade go on as long as it did.

-TK

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I think Teri WAS their target as well as Kim. The idea of killing Janet's dad and replacing him was to call and draw Teri out.

No question there are legit questions there, but I think that was the plan.

I'm sure they weren't going to let Teri and Kim just go.

[TrekBeatTK]

Back to binge-watching 24. Haven't seen season 2 since it first aired. There's a lot I like about this season, though I notice no one ever eats (or sleeps or anything else, but the eating really gets me for some reason). There's a bit too much Kim as damsel in distress (the cougar is probably the silliest bit), but solid overall.

Anyway, it got me thinking how much I'd love for there to be some kind of art installation or something with 8 separate monitors, each of which is playing a season of the show. They are all synched up and play in real time, arranged around a large digital clock displaying the time. Somehow that image just appeals to me.

-TK

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I can't binge watch anymore. Unfortunate but they took the show off netflix.