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Post by StarFuryG7 on Aug 14, 2014 12:46:49 GMT -5
Well, okay ...since no one else will bother, I will, as usual. |
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Post by CRAMBAM on Aug 14, 2014 13:37:45 GMT -5
That's T'Bad.
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Aug 14, 2014 15:26:19 GMT -5
Okay, I had to laugh at that. -TK |
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Post by Mel on Aug 16, 2014 10:20:39 GMT -5
Arlene Martel (T'Pring) played the female in The Outer Limits episode, Demon With a Glass Hand, with Robert Culp. She also played a nurse on The Twilight Zone, in the episode titled Twenty Two, about a morgue.
I always thought Arlene was the actress in The Outer Limits episode, ZZZZZ, about a bee taking a female human form to mate, but I was wrong. That actress was Joanna Frank.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Aug 19, 2014 0:40:24 GMT -5
I didn't even think to post this here, in case anyone might be interested. Sorry. I was in a rush to post it Sunday night just before "The Last Ship" was about to start. One of the mods there asked me if I would mind doing it, so I agreed to. |
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Aug 19, 2014 13:42:20 GMT -5
I didn't even think to post this here, in case anyone might be interested. Sorry. I was in a rush to post it Sunday night just before "The Last Ship" was about to start. One of the mods there asked me if I would mind doing it, so I agreed to. I'm reminded of one of the other AOL exiles I e-mail with, who a few years ago went to a live staging of Amok Time in the park. I thought that was a neat idea. There are a few other Trek episodes that would be good for public performance. He said they had the music and everything. This group has done several Trek in the Park performances of different episodes. Here's some pics:   -TK |
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Post by CRAMBAM on Aug 19, 2014 14:27:57 GMT -5
That's awesome. I wonder if they draw a crowd.
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Post by Mel on Aug 20, 2014 8:07:56 GMT -5
Way cool. It must be fun to do and watch.
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Post by CRAMBAM on Aug 20, 2014 21:35:48 GMT -5
What park?
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Aug 21, 2014 5:51:35 GMT -5
That show was at Woodlawn Park in Portland, OR (because of course it would be Portland). That group did a few more in that location and a few at Cathedral Park. They did five episodes total, including Space Seed and Trouble With Tribbles before calling it quits (having completed a "five year mission"). But other groups have taken up the mantle. There's a group called Outdoor Trek out of Seattle that does it now too. -TK |
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Aug 22, 2014 20:18:12 GMT -5
I'm currently working on pairing each of the 79 episodes of TOS with a comparable episode of TNG, tied thematically or due to plot similarities. Partially because I think it might be a way to help sell TOS viewing to newbies starting with TNG, and partially because it's a fun thought experiment. Some have been easy to pair (Naked Time, Naked Now obviously), but others have me going back and forth. Originally I paired The Neutral Zone with Balance of Terror, but then thought Space Seed was better, so I need to find the right Romulan ep to pair Balance of Terror with. I'd like to pair What Are Little Girls Made Of? with a Data episode, but which? Datalore? Brothers? Inheritance?
I had Journey to Babel with Sarek, that seemed smart at first. But then I thought maybe JTB worked well thematically against The Icarus Factor, as they both deal with father-son issues. That left Sarek free to pair with Amok Time, both stories having Vulcans medically lose control of their logical faculties.
I'm debating whether to include TAS here as well. Anyone have any suggestions of pairings?
-TK
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Post by CRAMBAM on Aug 23, 2014 8:49:57 GMT -5
I see Balance of Terror paired with BOBW, as it showed the top ship of the Federation defending against an invasion from the top ship of an enemy.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Aug 24, 2014 1:39:10 GMT -5
I'm currently working on pairing each of the 79 episodes of TOS with a comparable episode of TNG, tied thematically or due to plot similarities. Partially because I think it might be a way to help sell TOS viewing to newbies starting with TNG, and partially because it's a fun thought experiment. Some have been easy to pair (Naked Time, Naked Now obviously), but others have me going back and forth. Originally I paired The Neutral Zone with Balance of Terror, but then thought Space Seed was better, so I need to find the right Romulan ep to pair Balance of Terror with. I'd like to pair What Are Little Girls Made Of? with a Data episode, but which? Datalore? Brothers? Inheritance? I had Journey to Babel with Sarek, that seemed smart at first. But then I thought maybe JTB worked well thematically against The Icarus Factor, as they both deal with father-son issues. That left Sarek free to pair with Amok Time, both stories having Vulcans medically lose control of their logical faculties. I'm debating whether to include TAS here as well. Anyone have any suggestions of pairings? -TK Christ, I have not watched TNG in a long time, except for a few years ago when it was on at 3am weeknights and I was crazy enough to watch some of them at that time. I haven't seen most of TOS in ages either, despite how well I know the episodes, but to do something like you're suggesting I'd probably have to sit down and do what you're doing, which I'm not, which doesn't make me an especially great candidate to give you suggestions presently. I also wanted to get to some TOS episodes on Blu-ray, but there have been so many shows on even though it's summer that I just really haven't had time for it. I checked "Amok Time" out last week though, but that was because I was asked to do the Episode Discussion for that episode over in the Trek subreddit as you know, or I wouldn't have made it a point to do that then either. If I think of something I'll let you know though. |
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Aug 24, 2014 17:22:23 GMT -5
Here's what I've got so far. TOS on the left, TNG on the right.
The Squire of Gothos Encounter at Farpoint
The Naked Time The Naked Now
Shore Leave Where No One Has Gone Before
The Apple Justice
A Piece of the Action The Big Goodbye
Spock's Brain Angel One
The Devil in the Dark Home Soil
Operation--Annihilate! Conspiracy
Space Seed The Neutral Zone
Friday's Child The Child (this pairing isn't great, united only by pregnancies)
The Empath Where Silence Has Lease
Loud as a Whisper Is There In Truth No Beauty?
The Deadly Years Unnatural Selection
Journey to Babel The Icarus Factor
The Ultimate Computer Peak Performance
The Cloud Minders The Hunted (I considered "Dagger of the Mind" as well for this slot)
Court Martial A Matter of Perspective
The City on the Edge of Forever Yesterday's Enterprise
The Tholian Web The Most Toys
Sarek Amok Time
Return to Tomorrow Power Play
Mudd's Women The Perfect Mate
Spectre of the Gun A Fistful of Datas
The Enterprise Incident The Pegasus
Catspaw Sub Rosa
The Paradise Syndrome Journey's End
-TK
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Post by CRAMBAM on Aug 24, 2014 19:58:30 GMT -5
Essentially, the TOS blu rays are on netflix.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Aug 25, 2014 12:43:36 GMT -5
Here's what I've got so far. TOS on the left, TNG on the right. -TK Well, I gave this some thought yesterday while cleaning the house. I think "The Tholian Web" and "The Pegasus" make a decent match, as both involved the ship's being trapped. In TOS, Kirk does the noble thing by staying behind and ordering Spock, McCoy and Chekov back to the ship, resulting in his getting stuck aboard the Defiant once it disappears. (This was also a good example of why the Captain shouldn't always leave the ship as part of a landing party/away team). In "The Pegasus", Riker has to be the one to come clean in the end and expose Admiral Pressman, along with his own involvement of the failed experiment that resulted in the loss of the Pegasus crew. In "The Tholian Web" it's the Tholians responsible for trapping the ship, and in "The Pegasus" it's the Romulans. The other two that I would pair would be "The Lights Of Zetar" and "Power Play", the latter of which I very strongly believe was stolen from a manuscript that I had sent to Pocket Books a few years earlier. The story was too similar to my own for it not to have been a work of cannibalism in my view. I had sent the manuscript in unsolicited, without an agent, which at the time Pocket allowed. I don't know whether that's still their practice or not, but it was only a first draft and was in serious need of a polishing. It also dates back to before I even had a computer --most people didn't have one in their home at that time-- so I had to write the thing on an electric typewriter, so any typos still had to be to be fixed, etcetera, and I knew that thing was in need of a serious going over before sending it in, but I sent it anyway like an idiot, figuring that the story was there nevertheless. I was young and impetuous, and suffice it to say that if I had it to do over again, especially at a time where I already owned a PC, I'd have sent it in a lot cleaner and sharper than I did, so it's my fault. I have no one else to blame but myself, but that doesn't mean the writers of that episode hadn't seen it for themselves, because I believe they did, and decided to create an episode of their own using the idea. Anyway, the similarity between the "The Lights Of Zetar" and "Power Play" should be apparent enough without me having to go into the stories of each. It could be said that my idea for the story I wrote was inspired to a degree from "The Lights Of Zetar", which in a way, I suppose it was, but it was also entirely different in its own right. The writers of "Power Play" deviated from my story as well to an extent, but the core premise, along with significant other similarities, were nevertheless present and apparent, and that's why Berman and Braga and company don't rate all that high on my list as writers. They credited two other people for the story there, but I don't buy it. I'd bet my bottom dollar it was taken somehow, some way from my manuscript. At any rate, it's all sour grapes obviously. :::Sigh::: So, TK ...being that you're the one doing these comparisons, what do you think of these four episodes and whether or not they make decent pairings? |
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Aug 25, 2014 12:47:40 GMT -5
Essentially, the TOS blu rays are on netflix. There is something to be said for owning your own copies though. I mean, what kind of a classic Trek Fan doesn't want to own the series on Blu-ray, with all of those episodes having been completely Remastered? For shame.  |
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Aug 25, 2014 20:37:50 GMT -5
Here's what I've got so far. TOS on the left, TNG on the right. -TK So, TK ...being that you're the one doing these comparisons, what do you think of these four episodes and whether or not they make decent pairings? "Tholian Web" with "Pegasus" is a good pairing. I put "The Pegasus" with "Enterprise Incident" since both involve secret plots to obtain cloaking devices. I put "Tholian Web" with "The Most Toys" because of the parallels between the funeral for Kirk who wasn't dead, and the funeral for Data who wasn't dead. I had "Return to Tomorrow" with "Power Play", but your suggestion of "The Lights of Zetar" might be better. Been a long time since I watched Zetar though. -TK |
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Post by CRAMBAM on Aug 26, 2014 7:20:37 GMT -5
The remastered episodes are all on netflix. As long as I keep my subscription, it's the same thing!  |
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Aug 26, 2014 11:02:40 GMT -5
"Tholian Web" with "Pegasus" is a good pairing. I put "The Pegasus" with "Enterprise Incident" since both involve secret plots to obtain cloaking devices. I put "Tholian Web" with "The Most Toys" because of the parallels between the funeral for Kirk who wasn't dead, and the funeral for Data who wasn't dead. I looked over your selections, but came up with my pairings Sunday afternoon while cleaning my place, before you had posted, so I wanted to put them out there anyway to see what you thought about them. I had "Return to Tomorrow" with "Power Play", but your suggestion of "The Lights of Zetar" might be better. Been a long time since I watched Zetar though. -TK That episode was written by Shari Lewis and her husband, which is rather amusing. If you don't know who she is, look her up. |
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Aug 26, 2014 11:28:11 GMT -5
The remastered episodes are all on netflix. As long as I keep my subscription, it's the same thing! Unless they decide to not renew the licensing at some point, as they did with "Babylon 5" some years back.  |
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Aug 26, 2014 17:23:08 GMT -5
That episode was written by Shari Lewis and her husband, which is rather amusing. If you don't know who she is, look her up. Like the Lamb Chob Shari Lewis? Boy, you learn something every day. -TK |
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Post by CRAMBAM on Aug 29, 2014 7:31:42 GMT -5
If they ever do that, I can always get the blu ray, should they be reasonably priced.
The Adam West Batman is going to be so overpriced, it'll make TOS look like a bargain.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Aug 30, 2014 12:18:35 GMT -5
If they ever do that, I can always get the blu ray, should they be reasonably priced. The Adam West Batman is going to be so overpriced, it'll make TOS look like a bargain. |
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Post by CRAMBAM on Sept 1, 2014 12:13:15 GMT -5
It's always possible, but it's not like access is not there.
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Post by captainbasil on Sept 2, 2014 5:38:59 GMT -5
I like streaming but you can't depend on it. I find if it's a film or TV series I truly enjoy you can't beat owning your own hard copy. I loved streaming and downloads for a while but the fascination wore off quickly.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Oct 9, 2014 15:57:41 GMT -5
Not sure how many of you are stopping over by Reddit these days other than TK, but I was once again asked to provide a Weekly Episode Topic if any of you are interested and hadn't seen it.I think next time I'll try a different approach.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Dec 4, 2014 11:45:04 GMT -5
I'm a day late here, which I regret, but I didn't check the 'Star Trek' subreddit yesterday or I would have noticed. However, I think it's cool that some notable entertainment websites are taking note of this anniversary. |
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Jan 1, 2015 20:47:37 GMT -5
Today I began a plan to rewatch all Star Trek in a year. Which meant finally watching TOS again for the first time in a few years (apart from a few episodes).
Thoughts from today's episodes:
WHERE NO MAN HAS GONE BEFORE -- Could we possibly consider this an alternate universe? I mean, I know it's not "supposed" to be, but given the different uniforms, crew compliment, Sulu as an astrophysicist and Kirk's erroneous middle initial, there's a part of me that thinks it would be interesting to posit this story as an alternate realm that could have other potential sequels. Also, if JJ Trek wants to keep rehashing TOS characters I just don't understand why they haven't used Gary Mitchell. I don't want a retread of this story, but I'd love to see him appear as a character.
THE CORBOMITE MANEUVER -- We all remember Kirk saving the day with his poker bluff. But what I often forget is McCoy reading Kirk out for mistakes he makes in handling Bailey. It's a great start to the Bones/Kirk relationship and the kind of thing we'll get a lot of in TMP.
-TK
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Jan 3, 2015 13:35:44 GMT -5
Thoughts for yesterday's episodes...
MUDD'S WOMEN -- Spock calls it "an annoying, emotional episode" and he's not wrong. I've always called foul on the fairy tale placebo ending. There's good stuff in it, but that ending mars so much of what I thought the show was about up to that point.
THE ENEMY WITHIN -- there are so many firsts in this episode that are easy to miss. Not just the first neck pinch, but the first transporter malfunction, the first green V-neck shirt, the first "He's dead, Jim"! Just the idea that the captain is a potential rapist (and that his rapey side makes him a good captain somehow) always amazes me that this aired when it did. The attack on Rand is very well done.
-TK
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