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Post by CRAMBAM on Jun 19, 2013 21:14:31 GMT -5
I did like the Twilight Zone, so I could watch that.
I never watched Outer Limits, Forbidden Planet or Doctor Strangelove.
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Jun 19, 2013 21:54:52 GMT -5
Dr. Strangelove is a must-see. It's a little slow in places and sometimes the satire is drier than at other times, but it's still a brilliant movie that's as funny and relevant as ever.
I'd like to throw into the mix a lesser-known film from the early 1950s called The Man in the White Suit. It's a British comedy of sorts with slight science-fiction leanings about a man played by Alec Guinness who creates an indestructible fabric and how it wrecks havoc because the textile workers don't want to be out of work.
I haven't seen Forbidden Planet yet either, but only because I've been saving it for the right time. It's coming up on my list very soon.
-TK
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Jun 20, 2013 0:08:07 GMT -5
I did like the Twilight Zone, so I could watch that. I never watched Outer Limits, Forbidden Planet or Doctor Strangelove. :::jaw drops::: What kind of a science fiction fan are you? Dude, you have to look at "Forbidden Planet". You'll also notice something that was lifted from it right away by Roddenberry, and utilized heavily in TOS and all the later Trek shows and movies. And good God, the original "Outer Limits" is most certainly worth your time. Some great stuff done there, and Michael Forest is in an episode. In fact you'd see quite a number of actors whom you'd recognize in that show, including William Shatner. He appeared in a rather creepy episode. They worked on a shoestring budget for the effects in that show, literally, and for the most part they made what they had work, and its shortcomings were also helped by the fact that they were filmed in black and white. But why the hell would you deprive yourself of all that earlier stuff? Some of it's great! You have to correct your mistake by having overlooked all that work in decades past. Shame on you, and I'm serious. And I assure you that you'd have a much easier time with "The Outer Limits" and "Forbidden Planet" than you do with classic "Doctor Who". I'd put off looking at "Doctor Strangelove" though. It's very quirky, off-beat humor, as it's a black comedy, and since you have Peter Sellers playing three different roles in that film, it also has a healthy dose of his British humor. Nothing you can't look at later though. In fact, I've been considering watching "Forbidden Planet" again over the last couple of weeks. My original DVD developed a crack in the circle that you pop it back into the case on, so I knew I had to replace it, and bought a re-release of it with Extra Features that my other copy didn't come with when I was in Costco some years back and it's still sealed in plastic, never opened to this day. So I'm going to watch it again soon. Why don't you see if it's available on Netflix? If you watch it, I'll watch it, and we can talk about it here afterward. And while you're at it I'd check for the original "The Outer Limits" on Netflix as well. Let me know what you find. I'm curious. (I don't have Netflix.) |
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Jun 20, 2013 0:35:51 GMT -5
I haven't seen Forbidden Planet yet either, but only because I've been saving it for the right time. It's coming up on my list very soon. -TK I'm stuck in a field with barbarians, but I didn't know it until just now. :/ Woe is me. Woe. |
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Jun 20, 2013 5:17:19 GMT -5
There are certain films I really want to see, because there are so many I have them in an organized list. Beyond that, there are some that I'm saving. I still haven't watched Goodfellas either. It's sitting there on my shelf, but I'm saving it. I like still having something to look forward to. Forbidden Planet is one of those.
-TK
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Post by captainbasil on Jun 20, 2013 6:53:17 GMT -5
The original Outer Limits is a classic. It's one of the best science fiction shows ever !
Forbidden Planet is overrated but it was ahead of its time. See it for Robbie The Robot alone. ;D
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Jun 20, 2013 19:01:13 GMT -5
The original Outer Limits is a classic. It's one of the best science fiction shows ever ! Forbidden Planet is overrated but it was ahead of its time. See it for Robbie The Robot alone. ;D |
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Jun 20, 2013 19:18:05 GMT -5
Quick Search Results:Shatner's episode was "Cold Hands, Warm Heart" (26 Sep. 1964), Season 2, Episode 2
I don't like watching shows online generally though. I've always preferred watching them on my TV, even before I went HD. But hey, that's just me.
At any rate, there you have it. They're all online for Free viewing.
And it looks as though Netflix has "Forbidden Planet" by the way, but I wouldn't look it up on the Internet. If you do, skip the movie summary. I don't like the way it was written. It gives too much away.
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Post by CRAMBAM on Jun 20, 2013 22:06:35 GMT -5
I may have to watch the Shatner episode when I have the time.
In fact, maybe I'll put the Outer Limits in my queue. I'm currently working on Alias and the Incredible Hulk, but will have openings after that.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Jun 21, 2013 13:32:30 GMT -5
I may have to watch the Shatner episode when I have the time. In fact, maybe I'll put the Outer Limits in my queue. I'm currently working on Alias and the Incredible Hulk, but will have openings after that. Put it in your queue, just don't forget to. I think I'll watch the Shatner episode again myself sometime over the weekend, since it's been so long since I've seen it. I have all three volumes on DVD. What's it going to take to get you to look at "Forbidden Planet" though, I wonder? You're long overdue for that one as well. |
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Post by CRAMBAM on Jun 26, 2013 7:28:41 GMT -5
It's all about time. Right now, I'm taking advantage of the summer to watch Alias. I also have a few other old shows in the queue ahead, like Incredible Hulk and Amazing Stories.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Jun 26, 2013 19:11:21 GMT -5
It's all about time. Right now, I'm taking advantage of the summer to watch Alias. I also have a few other old shows in the queue ahead, like Incredible Hulk and Amazing Stories.
Yeah, I watched them back in the 80s, and I think I saw all of them, except I used to refer to it as "Amazingly Bad Stories" back then. Spielberg schlock. |
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Post by CRAMBAM on Jun 27, 2013 6:37:11 GMT -5
I'm watching them sporadically. I actually like them. Kind of a Twilight Zone-Lite.
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Post by captainbasil on Jul 5, 2013 7:52:02 GMT -5
I started watching: The Doctors Revisited: The Sixth Doctor yesterday. The episode they chose was Vengeance on Varos which looks kind of interesting. A lot of commentary about violence as entertainment. Colin Baker's companion in this one is the beautiful Nicola Bryant as Peri Brown. She was introduced in Peter Davison's last season but she's much more suited to Colin Baker. To be honest, I hated Colin Baker on Tv. His later Dr Who audio work has redeemed him in my eyes, but I just did not enjoy many of his televison stories and have only seen a few. I'm about a quarter through Varos and I want to give it an honest shot.  |
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Jul 5, 2013 8:23:13 GMT -5
Thanks for reminding me about the sixth Doctor. I realized last week that I had missed it, intended to get to it On Demand at some point, and then it slipped my mind again since the beginning of this week. I'll check it out at some point in the coming days though.
I know I'm still posting here on a semi-regular basis, but I have a lot going on right now so there will be times where even though I may check in on the board to see if there's anything new posted here when I have a quick minute, I may not be able to post anything myself until some later point. So bear with me, as things may, and probably will get in my way at times that will prevent me from doing that.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Jul 5, 2013 8:46:26 GMT -5
Okay, guys, I'm just letting you know that keeping with what I said a while back, I am not going to post articles here when I find that a comment I tried to make over at Blastr wasn't allowed through on one of their article Pages, and that was the case with a piece posted there yesterday about Helen Mirren not being interested in taking on the role of the Doctor next, and her thinking that the next incarnation of the character should be both gay and black. If either of those things happens, I won't be watching the show anymore. That will be where I sign out. However, my purpose as of right now is to let you know the article is there if you haven't seen it but are interested in checking it out. I will not be posting the summary or link to it, however. If they want to censor certain people just for the sake of doing it then I have absolutely no reason to in any way promote them or their site with regard to anything that may appear over there. A similar thing happened last week with another article and there was no reason in the world why my comment shouldn't have been allowed through because it was an inoffensive totally legitimate opinion, and yet it wasn't allowed through, even though I saw messages from other people whose comments were allowed through saying essentially the same thing. So that's the way it's going to work here from now on --they silence me, I don't in any way promote them--period. But I apologize for the inconvenience.
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Post by TK on Jul 5, 2013 11:58:04 GMT -5
I read that piece, and it was really just a throwaway quote. I fully believe that Helen Mirren was joking, and as is all too often the case in the internet age, Blastr acted like she was dead serious (not for the first time).
She was responding to rumor that she would be the next Doctor. There's been a lot of hoopla about whether it's finally time for a female Time Lord, so her quote just turned that speculation on its head, suggesting the next doctor should be three minorities in one and appease everyone. I don't take it seriously, and I don't think you should either. Blastr just doesn't understand deadpan humor.
-TK
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Jul 5, 2013 14:37:08 GMT -5
I read that piece, and it was really just a throwaway quote. I fully believe that Helen Mirren was joking, and as is all too often the case in the internet age, Blastr acted like she was dead serious (not for the first time).-TK It's hard to tell anymore. Have you watched any of "Under the Dome"? In the first episode they introduce a biracial lesbian couple with a daughter that just happen to be passing through the town, but get stuck there with the rest of the townsfolk. (In other words, they instantly become regular cast members.) So as I told some idiot yesterday over at Reddit, they had a twofer: biracial and gay ...a three-fer actually if you include the kid. As I said to that jerk, talk about working the PC angle. So no, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Helen Mirren wasn't joking at all and was dead serious. EDIT: My Android device has decided to start playing some double word games on me in addition to all the other crap I have to routinely deal with when using this damn thing. I'm just letting you guys know that it wasn't my doing. Piece of crap. |
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Jul 5, 2013 17:28:34 GMT -5
Yes, I did watch Under the Dome. And I thought the lesbian couple was weirdly cast because I didn't get right away that they WERE lesbians. The white hipster chick looks young enough to be an older sister of the daughter. So far little has been done with them other than that they are there and they are outsiders. But a character like that does smack of the modern "progressive" agenda; "I'm not just a hipster with an adopted daughter, I'm ALSO a lesbian AND my partner is BLACK!" It screams "look at me! look at me!" and I'm hoping that they exploit that for the satire it deserves.
But with Helen Mirren, I see that sort of dry British wit coming out. Still, yes in the light of stuff like Under the Dome and the unbelievably poor legal precedent the Supreme Court has just commited, I guess I see why Blastr wants to jump to the wackiest of conclusions.
But even IF Mirren were serious, she has nothing to do with the production of the show, and I don't see it happening.
-TK
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Jul 6, 2013 11:26:25 GMT -5
Yes, I did watch Under the Dome. And I thought the lesbian couple was weirdly cast because I didn't get right away that they WERE lesbians. We weren't supposed to catch on right away. I didn't get it either. Initially we were supposed to be taken by surprise, but then we were supposed to just sit back and accept it as normalcy. It's a subtle attempt at brainwashing the low-information masses into thinking it's no big deal. The white hipster chick looks young enough to be an older sister of the daughter. So far little has been done with them other than that they are there and they are outsiders. But a character like that does smack of the modern "progressive" agenda; "I'm not just a hipster with an adopted daughter, I'm ALSO a lesbian AND my partner is BLACK!" It screams "look at me! look at me!" and I'm hoping that they exploit that for the satire it deserves. You know they won't though. But notice they were there helping to put out the fire, and it seems to me that this show is going to have a very simple juvenile message: look at what can he accomplished when the people all work together, versus those that don't are doomed. We'll see though; the sheriff dying in the first episode is a lot like the Captain being killed at the beginning of a doomed voyage, such as in "Alien" when Dallas bites the dust, although it happened a little further into that film with his character. |
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Post by captainbasil on Jul 18, 2013 18:29:46 GMT -5
It's going to be a long wait for new Doctor Who. But only in the medium of television. I listen to new Dr Who stories on a regular basis thanks to a British company called Big Finish Productions. They were responsible for keeping Who alive after the original series was canceled in 1989. Are thye any good ? Yes. I know this because the Doctors from the newer version of the show are contractually forbidden from appearing in these non-BBC productions even though they buy a license from them. Colin Baker, Peter Davison, Sylvester McCoy , Paul McGann and now Tom Baker appear in monthly installments of 2 hour CDs or downloads of totally new episodes, which include the music from their particular TV era. When I first discovered these I thought they might be a nostalgic novelty but I was quite wrong. The Doctors and companions have filled canonical holes and expanded their characters. I just listened to Sylvester McCoy and Sophie Aldred in The Fearmonger. It rocked ! I am not very fond of the TV episodes of the 7th Doctor but I have a new respect for him now. I hated Colin Baker on TV but now I really enjoy his audio efforts. The transition from TV to Audio is seamless and in some ways, the quality is much more consistent than what is offered on televison. Stop by Bigfinish.com before your next commute. |
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Post by CRAMBAM on Jul 19, 2013 6:33:18 GMT -5
Are they scripted in today's style, or in the style of the time? I like the current version a lot, but attempts to watch classic doctors have bored me. I always figured that today's writing would cure that problem if we ever saw a classic doctor.
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Post by captainbasil on Jul 19, 2013 7:11:43 GMT -5
It varies. Sometimes they are in old school 4 part segments, but you have all 4 segments with the download, so it's your option to listen to the whole thing at once. Some of the McGanns are in a 1 hour format similar to today's version. Actually the McGann hour long shows were made by Big Finish for broadcast on the BBC just before the new show aired. I guess the BBC wanted a radio bridge between McGann and Eccleston.
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Post by CRAMBAM on Jul 19, 2013 7:22:02 GMT -5
I still want to see the story of McGann's regeneration, but the beauty of not having it means they could, if they wanted to, do a season or two with McGann as the 8th Doctor.
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Post by captainbasil on Jul 19, 2013 8:59:32 GMT -5
I still want to see the story of McGann's regeneration, but the beauty of not having it means they could, if they wanted to, do a season or two with McGann as the 8th Doctor. That is a great idea. He's that good. He deserves at least a season. I'm surprised that he was not brought in for Eccleston's first episode. Sylvester McCoy's Doctor was canceled without a regeneration, but he was brought in for the beginning of the McGann film. |
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Post by CRAMBAM on Jul 19, 2013 13:30:59 GMT -5
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Jul 19, 2013 19:32:55 GMT -5
It's going to be a long wait for new Doctor Who. But only in the medium of television. I listen to new Dr Who stories on a regular basis thanks to a British company called Big Finish Productions. They were responsible for keeping Who alive after the original series was canceled in 1989. Are thye any good ? Yes. I know this because the Doctors from the newer version of the show are contractually forbidden from appearing in these non-BBC productions even though they buy a license from them. Colin Baker, Peter Davison, Sylvester McCoy , Paul McGann and now Tom Baker appear in monthly installments of 2 hour CDs or downloads of totally new episodes, which include the music from their particular TV era. When I first discovered these I thought they might be a nostalgic novelty but I was quite wrong. The Doctors and companions have filled canonical holes and expanded their characters. I just listened to Sylvester McCoy and Sophie Aldred in The Fearmonger. It rocked ! I am not very fond of the TV episodes of the 7th Doctor but I have a new respect for him now. I hated Colin Baker on TV but now I really enjoy his audio efforts. The transition from TV to Audio is seamless and in some ways, the quality is much more consistent than what is offered on televison. Stop by Bigfinish.com before your next commute. I just had a thought. Obviously these actors who've played the Doctor previously are too old to reprise the role, but being that they've done these Audio stories, the audio is obviously there to make them Animated Episodes. I suspect the day will come, perhaps when many of us are no longer even around, when doing that with Audio Episodes like this will be adapted to a video format as well using excellent quality CGI when it becomes easier, more practical, and far less expensive. In fact, I'm a little surprised that an amateur videographer somewhere hasn't tried to do this on his own with an episode or two using his own desktop PC. There's the guy who did "Star Trek Aurora" who created his own Animated episode of Trek using all new characters that he created. Someone like him, who is willing to invest the time, could do that with these Audio Episodes of Classic Who featuring the earlier Doctors. Just a thought. |
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Post by CRAMBAM on Jul 20, 2013 9:08:55 GMT -5
That could totally work, or BBC could simply make some animated episodes.
Paul McGann though is not too old to reprise the role because we never saw him regenerate. He could re-emerge 20 years from now and play the role. His appearance doesn't matter because he had no end.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Jul 20, 2013 10:49:23 GMT -5
That could totally work, or BBC could simply make some animated episodes. But they already have the audio files and episodes of the earlier Doctors to work with, and I think fans, most of whom haven't even been introduced to these audio episodes, would probably really appreciate having new adventures like these just fall into their laps. In fact, it would have been nice for them to start putting out a few of them converted into animated video adventures for this year being that it's the 50th anniversary celebration. I suppose they could still do it by at least announcing they intend to start doing it with a few of those audio episodes, but it won't happen given that the BBC doesn't have the money for it seeing how little is being done for the anniversary this year as it is. So there's a good idea nothing will come of unfortunately, at least not right now, if ever. Paul McGann though is not too old to reprise the role because we never saw him regenerate. He could re-emerge 20 years from now and play the role. His appearance doesn't matter because he had no end. I'm not sure that would work out so well given that he would age and we have a pretty good idea as to just when his stint should have ended, just prior to Eccleston taking on the role for a mere 13 episodes, I think it was. |
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Post by CRAMBAM on Jul 20, 2013 21:23:59 GMT -5
I don't know if they could be adapted. How were these audios done? Were they done like a radio show from the 1930s, where hyou would have different actors playing different roles? Or were they done like an audio book, where the actor is doing all the parts?
Was it a script? Or was it a book reading?
The thing is, while we all know McGann regenerates into Eccleston (or at least we believe that), we don't know how old McGann was when it happens. With today's technology, pulling an image of Eccleston from any of his episodes could be done.
So McGann is as open as anyone.
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