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Post by StarFuryG7 on Apr 9, 2013 18:32:53 GMT -5
Not really news here, but figured I'd post it anyway.
Over at Zap2it.com:
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Post by CRAMBAM on Apr 10, 2013 12:10:42 GMT -5
I really wish Eccleston would reconsider. He's disappointing a lot of people.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Apr 10, 2013 16:16:55 GMT -5
I really wish Eccleston would reconsider. He's disappointing a lot of people. |
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Post by captainbasil on Apr 10, 2013 17:02:55 GMT -5
I really wish Eccleston would reconsider. He's disappointing a lot of people. Yes, and I'm one of them. I wouldn't mind so much but he played fast and loose with the fans. I always respected his feud with the BBC but when he met with Moffat I thought he was really going to do it. Still if Baker and Davison are on board, I will be happy.  |
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Apr 10, 2013 18:23:46 GMT -5
Yes, and I'm one of them. I wouldn't mind so much but he played fast and loose with the fans. I always respected his feud with the BBC but when he met with Moffat I thought he was really going to do it. Still if Baker and Davison are on board, I will be happy.
And I hate to be the bearer of bad news with respect to Baker, BUT . . .Say it ain't so! Here are 3 more former Docs who won’t be in Who’s 50thBy Nathalie Caron Wed, 04/10/2013 - 12:43pm  If you were still holding out hope that we’d get to see a few more former Time Lords in the upcoming Doctor Who 50th anniversary special, well, don’t. More: www.blastr.com/2013-4-10/say-it-aint-so-here-are-3-more-former-docs-who-won%E2%80%99t-be-who%E2%80%99s-50th |
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Post by CRAMBAM on Apr 11, 2013 14:25:32 GMT -5
That was Colin Baker, not Tom Baker, but let's face it--only 2 Doctors will be in the special. Sucks, but that's the reality.
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Post by captainbasil on Apr 11, 2013 18:21:06 GMT -5
Much to my dismay it looks like the only tribute to the pre-2005 Doctors is going to be the monthly Doctors Revisited Specials. I'm surprised at this because the show spans generations. Some older fans, define the series as Classic Doctor Who and Nu Who. This old codger does not. I love the classic older version and I like the new show too. It seem the BBC is just following the money.
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Post by CRAMBAM on Apr 11, 2013 19:01:24 GMT -5
Probably true, but there are some audios coming out featuring the others.
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Post by captainbasil on Apr 12, 2013 6:51:15 GMT -5
Yes Big Finish has a CD coming out in November with Tom Baker, Peter Davison, Paul McGann, Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy. I need to pre-order it. The last BF Doctor Who I listened to : Spare Parts was one of the best ones I've ever heard. Well worth the price of the download. |
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Apr 12, 2013 18:44:35 GMT -5
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Post by captainbasil on Apr 12, 2013 19:06:25 GMT -5
McGann is one of the best Doctors ever, despite the less-than-stellar Fox film he was in. If you don't believe me go to Big Finish Productions and download Storm Warning or Blood of the Daleks or any of his other great Doctor Who audio/radio productions. I'm starting to think that the BBC is stuffing the pre-2005 Doctors and that's a shame. Especially since last Saturday's Doctor Who episode sucked.  |
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Post by captainbasil on Apr 12, 2013 19:32:13 GMT -5
Right now on Netflix they are streaming some classic Doctor Who including: Troughton's The Mind Robber, Tom Baker's Pyramids of Mars, and Davison's last and perhaps best Caves of Androzani.Be there or be square.
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Post by CRAMBAM on Apr 13, 2013 19:55:30 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe that they will bring him on board. I'd love to see him in action though.
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Post by captainbasil on Apr 14, 2013 6:10:14 GMT -5
Yes, I now think that they are not going with any of the pre-2005 Doctors. I doubt we'll see McGann, which is a shame. His Audio Doctor Who episodes are fantastic. I can personally recommend Storm Warning (which takes place on the Hindenburg Airship), Memory Lane (just plain weird), and Blood of the Daleks.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Apr 14, 2013 10:44:07 GMT -5
It's not really a "50th Anniversary Special" if they're only going to have two of the Doctors and two of their companions.since 2005, with one of them being the current Doctor along with his current companion no less. That is an insult and a joke, especially considering all the promotional hype about featuring earlier Doctors which had gone on for months.
But what if this is all just a ruse for the time being?
Eh, I suppose not. If anything I think they would be touting the other actors that played the Doctor previously if they really were going to appear in this measly one-hour special.
How they didn't give it a running time of ninety minutes to two hours is also an insult and a joke for a property that has lasted for half a century at this point in various forms.
I'll bet it turns out to be not that great once it airs.
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Post by CRAMBAM on Apr 16, 2013 20:00:32 GMT -5
I have faith in Moffat. I have high expectations. But yeah, I'd have liked to have seen more doctors to honor such a special anniversary.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Apr 19, 2013 14:40:43 GMT -5
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Post by CRAMBAM on Apr 19, 2013 22:20:05 GMT -5
SPOILER:
It's Maury.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Apr 25, 2013 11:31:31 GMT -5
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Apr 29, 2013 14:42:15 GMT -5
I've decided after last night's fourth special on the Fourth Doctor that I don't like classic Doctor Who. I've given it a real shot --have watched all four specials thus far, and I really don't see what it is about this series that's given it its staying power over the span of the last five decades. To me, these stories tend to be very boring, and now with the advent of color in the last two specials, I found myself thinking about how they feel like daytime soap operas. They're shot very much like them, and I say that in spite of the not-so-elaborate sets and the money invested in special effects. Moffat called this one of the greatest episodes of "Doctor Who", and if that's really the case, then that tells me all I really need to know. Dull, boring, and excruciatingly slow. Some of what's incorporated into these serials is filler, which doesn't help the pace of the drama. What, for instance, was the purpose of the guy who was running around with the rifle until he got crushed by the autobots?
At any rate, I noticed last night that they're also putting these up Free On Demand for anyone who's interested. The second and third specials were there for viewing, along with most of the recent episodes of the current show.
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Apr 29, 2013 16:03:35 GMT -5
I think a big part of it is nostalgia. After a certain point it's just familiar and I'll bet people are just glad it's still around. Like Sesame Street; it's not half what it once was, but it's now one of those staples that you just expect to be there. I've seen very little classic Who, but I understand and agree that some of them are very slow.
It reminds me of this PBS show Ghostwriter that I grew up on. Each story was serialized over 4 episodes and when you watched them all together sometimes they seemed ridiculously slow. And some of that was only made worse by the fact that there were always shots of the kids writing clues down, and it took them FOREVER to write anything. Seeing it later, the many flaws were apparent but there was still something nice about it being there.
As to the soap opera look, I can't speak to all of them, but I know that for many of the earlier ones the original video was long lost and they had only film versions of the episodes. So what they've done is used frame-interlacing tech to fill in the missing frames of the film version and give it a video "look". Unfortunately, this does make things look more soap-y. It's similar to the new TVs that have frame-rate enhancers and give that creepy look to movies. (and similar to how weird The Hobbit looked in 48 fps). So some of that look may be from the restoration and not how it originally broadcast.
-TK
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Post by captainbasil on Apr 29, 2013 17:18:57 GMT -5
Sorry guys, I have to disagree with you. Tom Baker was probably the best Doctor ever. Perhaps not my personal favorite, but he's up there. Pyramids of Mars is a classic as are most of the Baker episodes. Yes, the episodes drag in this one off format because they were multi-part serials when originally broadcast. Sarah Jane Smith may be the greatest companion ever too. The chemistry she had with Baker is a once in a lifetime pairing. The Pertwee, Tom Baker, Davison years are considered by critics as the Golden Age of Doctor Who and I can't argue with that. I love the newer series, but the format is totally different and, to be honest, the last few episodes of season 7 have sucked out loud. Doctor Who can be silly, scary or over the top. But it should never be boring.
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Post by CRAMBAM on Apr 29, 2013 21:03:06 GMT -5
I wish I had a chance to watch. May take a week. Or I may get there fast.
I'm finding myself more interested in the documentary than the episodes. Tried to watch them, couldn't.
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Post by captainbasil on Apr 30, 2013 6:47:37 GMT -5
Yes, I'm a few episodes behind but I can't believe a season that started so strong with Asylum of the Daleks has fallen this flat. Moffat is drinking too much de-caf. ;D
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Apr 30, 2013 15:50:35 GMT -5
Well, all I can say is that I don't think it's a coincidence that classic Who never really found a following here in the States, and was dispatched to the land of PBS.
As for Baker, I know from the documentary that preceded Pyramids of Mars that he was considered the biggest favorite among the fans, but based on the last two classic episodes that they aired, I'd personally be more inclined to go with Jon Pertwee more than likely, although perhaps what held him back from being considered the favorite of the Doctors' among fans was the fact that he was Earthbound during his time playing the part. That probably didn't help him, although admittedly that's very much a guess on my part. And of course, I'm basing my view as to which of the two of them I would probably prefer on having seen just one episode apiece between the two of them. If I had actually sat through several episodes of the both of them I might have a different view, but I liked Pertwee's portrayal more than Baker's based on what little I've seen thus far.
Oh, and I liked Elizabeth Sladen's portrayal of Sarah Jane, which I've never seen before now, other than a few brief clips. But I'm still very much inclined to say that Amy Pond made the best companion so far, again, based on what limited material I've seen concerning Sarah Jane up to now, which is nearly nothing in comparison obviously.
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Post by captainbasil on Apr 30, 2013 18:09:06 GMT -5
Amy is one of my favorite companions too. And not just because she's smoking hot. I know you will be shocked to learn that I'm married to a beautiful redhead. I always thought Rose was an overrated companion . My favorites are: Sarah Jane Smith, Romana (1), Donna, Jo Grant, Nyssa, Tegan,Martha and for guys, Dr. Harry Sullivan, he was brave and useful.
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Post by CRAMBAM on Apr 30, 2013 22:07:07 GMT -5
I liked Rose a lot. To be honest, the only companion I didn't like was Mickey Smith.
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Post by captainbasil on May 17, 2013 17:57:24 GMT -5
I know I've been all over the map as to my opinion of the current season of Doctor Who. I loved the first half of the season and thought Asylum of the Daleks was one of the best Dalek episodes ever. When DW returned for the second half after a hiatus, I thought several episodes were, to say the least, under par. I'm still a few episodes behind but I admit I skipped ahead to watch the Cybermen episode Nightmare in Silver. This episode, featuring a classic Who enemy was everything it should be. Neil Gaiman was smart to upgrade the Cybermen but make them look pretty much the same. They look like the old clunky Cybermen, but they're not,. They're fast and scary as hell. Matt Smith, who I think is one of the best Doctors ever was superb playing chess with his Cyber-self. Everything clicked. I loved the scenes with the former doctors in the back-round and the allusions to not only the BBC episodes Tomb of The Cybermen (Patrick Troughton), Earthshock (Peter Davison) but Big Finish Productions famous audio Cybermen story: "Spare Parts" which tells the story of the origin of the Cybermen. This audio story is a direct sequel to the 80's episode Earthshock where a companion dies for the first time in the history of the show to save us from this menace. This is the first time the BBC has made an allusion to a non-BBC and perhaps non-canon story. This was great. Though I must admit, I like Clara but Coleman and Smith seem to lack chemistry together. Maybe it's just me. Your thoughts ?
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Post by CRAMBAM on May 20, 2013 7:39:30 GMT -5
I loved that episode, and I also loved the finale. Waiting until more people have seen it before commenting.
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Post by captainbasil on May 27, 2013 6:18:11 GMT -5
I'm watching the Fifth Doctor Special. Peter Davison is one of my favorite doctors and , before Tennant, he was the youngest man to ever take the role. The episode they run is Earthshock. It's a great cybermen episode. Even though I rented it from Netflix about a month ago I'm still watching it. My only complaint with these specials is they have too many commercials and removing the serial part segments ruins the pacing of the show.
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