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Post by TK on Mar 8, 2014 10:16:54 GMT -5
TK, are you looking at this? : ) ...Look at what these guys are doing. Is this Cool or what? Eric Henry mistakenly states 21 days rather than 21 years, but it's the photos that really matter here obviously. It's cool stuff, and it just ticks me off that it takes fan productions to do stuff like this. It proves that the "official" Trek canon could do similar things if they wanted to. You can do stuff in the TOS world of design and not make it look antiquated without complete redesigns like in JJ Trek (though I liked some of the design in those films, it was too far removed overall). Watching "Trials and Tribble-ations" recently it struck me how well they could do a TOS era project. It still looks great. -TK |
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Mar 10, 2014 7:17:53 GMT -5
t's cool stuff, and it just ticks me off that it takes fan productions to do stuff like this. It proves that the "official" Trek canon could do similar things if they wanted to. You can do stuff in the TOS world of design and not make it look antiquated without complete redesigns like in JJ Trek (though I liked some of the design in those films, it was too far removed overall). Watching "Trials and Tribble-ations" recently it struck me how well they could do a TOS era project. It still looks great. -TK These top dog studio executives tend to be more simple-minded folk than most people not working within that industry would probably be inclined to believe. They know they have the new Abrams Trekverse as a major property and are apparently not inclined to take any kind of a chance that might serve to jeopardize its lucrative potential, hence nothing new set in the original Prime universe, at least for the time being. Rumors have also abounded pretty much to that effect, and they're probably true, so for now at least, this is the kind of thing fans such as us are left with, even though I know that you, like me, have a general aversion regarding Fan Film productions, which I can understand given the amateur nature of so many of them, especially with regard to the acting in them, resulting in their pretty much just sucking. Then there's also the accompanying reality that regardless of how well they may be produced, they're also not canon and will never be considered as such by the studios in charge of the Trek properties. Axanar looks different however in that these guys appear to have real resources and have put together a campaign that apparently inspires enough of the fan base to contribute in helping to fund the project. I'm not even sure how their team has managed to add as many perks as they have to help motivate people to donate. They appear to have a company or ally with some deep pockets helping to back them. Have you gone to the Kickstarter website that I linked to initially? Look at the stuff they're offering to donors when you get a few minutes. I just hope that they also have a solid script that will honor the original series. By the design work alone there appears to be reason to believe that will be the case. And there's also the fact that so many people, including behind-the-scenes, appear to be professionals who already work in the industry. None of which guarantees that what they put together won't end up sucking in the final analysis of course. I'm just hoping that they do it right and that it has an accompanying professional polish which blows the minds of the executives over at Paramount and CBS, and perhaps gets them to also reconsider some of their thinking regarding the franchise currently. Who knows if that's even really possible of course, but in the meantime, I hope Axanar ends up being a cool, kick-ass production. I just wish they would have used the original Klingons given the period they've decided to focus on, even though "Enterprise" gives them an out of sorts regarding them. |
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Post by captainbasil on Mar 11, 2014 6:40:44 GMT -5
I've always had a soft spot for Fan films. This new one has potential,mostly due to the budget, but I have enjoyed the output of both STC and Phase 2 of late. I recently found a Starhsip Farragut I had missed : The Price of Anything and really enjoyed it and noticed how their production values had improved. Though from looking at the actors, it's obvious that the Food Replicators on the Farragut need their Carb ratio adjusted.  |
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Mar 11, 2014 11:21:50 GMT -5
I've always had a soft spot for Fan films. This new one has potential,mostly due to the budget, but I have enjoyed the output of both STC and Phase 2 of late. I recently found a Starhsip Farragut I had missed : The Price of Anything and really enjoyed it and noticed how their production values had improved. Though from looking at the actors, it's obvious that the Food Replicators on the Farragut need their Carb ratio adjusted. "Star Trek Continues" has been the only one good enough to interest me at all. I hope Tim Russ manages to produce something that's at least decent and somewhat worthwhile with "Renegades", but I wouldn't be surprised if I end up being disappointed once I'm done watching it after it hits the Web. But these Axanar guys have me fascinated and truly interested in their project. I think they're really trying to produce something so exceptional for a Fan Film that it will be good enough to air on television. Perhaps I'm wrong, but they look to be that motivated and inspired by what they're doing. |
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Mar 29, 2014 19:00:27 GMT -5
Fonts are back! I wonder if CRAM flipped a switch ... |
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Mar 30, 2014 10:52:29 GMT -5
They're just under eighty grand right now. We can only hope that they perform this well once they open the Kickstarter for the movie they intend to produce next. I have one major reservation about this though. Alec Peters is not a professional actor, and a lot is going to depend on him and his performance given that he's taking on the role of the main character for these two productions. |
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Post by CRAMBAM on Mar 30, 2014 15:14:50 GMT -5
If I flipped a switch, it was unintentional, but good.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Mar 31, 2014 7:09:48 GMT -5
It looks as though they may well hit, and perhaps even surpass a hundred grand, which would be ten times more than what they were looking to bring in at the outset from this Kickstarter. I hope their next fundraiser for the actual movie is as successful, but even more than that, I hope Alec Peters can act convincingly and actually pull off playing Garth the way he should be performed. |
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Jun 11, 2014 20:46:20 GMT -5
Well, as I was just saying in the Netflix thread about it being time for their thinking outside the box a little ...I just watched this for the first time myself just now. And once again I can thank the gang over at r/startrek on Reddit for this coming to my attention: Watch it with the graphics jacked up to 1080p by the way . . . Prelude to Axanar - Trailer 1
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Post by CRAMBAM on Jun 12, 2014 9:41:07 GMT -5
Going to have to wait to check this out at home to get the full effect then.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Jun 12, 2014 19:07:48 GMT -5
Going to have to wait to check this out at home to get the full effect then.
It looks great on a mobile device also --the FX sequences, probably even better in fact.
I know --I watched it on both my phone and my desktop PC monitor.
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Post by Mel on Jun 15, 2014 12:07:57 GMT -5
That (Klingon) actor reminds me of a young Lee Marvin.
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Post by CRAMBAM on Jun 15, 2014 19:41:29 GMT -5
We have a new Star Trek Continues!!!!
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Jun 16, 2014 6:39:40 GMT -5
We have a new Star Trek Continues!!!! Wow --they cranked that one out pretty fast. Hopefully I'll get to watch this later tonight on my flatscreen through my Blu-ray Player at some point. |
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Post by CRAMBAM on Jun 16, 2014 7:26:05 GMT -5
Another STRONG effort by this group. This one was a little shorter than the others, and had the benefit of needing to re-enact a previous scene from Mirror Mirror. Non Spoiler--this episode shows what happened on the ISS Enterprise after Kirk leaves. By re-enacting the last scene, you see the true differences between Shatner the actor and the guy playing Kirk now. It's very clear that the pros were better at the material, and while these guys are actually decent actors, the interpretations of the scenes were enough to notice. However, once that scene was done, they were their own people, and it was fine. It's not like other fan films where bad acting can take away. And once again, Chris Doohan was so spot on it's like he was genetic spawn of the original actor.  Plus, it was a strong script. SPOILERS: I liked what I watched. It held my attention the entire time. Shatner's books in my opinion, had Spock take a different turn in his revolution, which I liked better, but it's not their place to copy Shatner's books. While I would have figured James Kirk would have been a bit more formidable, given that this was a one shot episode in the mirror universe, and it was modeled after the 1960s style of writing, what they did here made sense. To go the route Shatner took would require an entire series set in the mirror universe. So the solutions they came up with worked for what they had to do. I enjoyed it. |
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Jun 17, 2014 19:15:20 GMT -5
Star Trek Continues E03 "Fairest of Them All"
Spoilers ...so you have been warned . . .I got a kick out of it, and thought they performed a pretty faithful adaptation of the ending to "Mirror, Mirror" at the beginning of the episode. My main problem with it, however, was that the Mirror universe we saw in that episode of the original series was far more savage than is either depicted or given credit for here in this episode, thereby making what Mirror Spock does after his conversation with our Kirk much easier to accomplish than it should have been for him to pull off. Uhura and Smith, the navigator, teaming up on the bridge to work on Mirror Spock's behalf was also a PC touch one might expect in this day and age, but keeping the bridge empty except for those two officers at times didn't reflect well on either the production or the fleet that we're expected to suspend our disbelief to believe in here, especially in what was supposed to be a vicious environment in general, with officers advancing by assassination of their superiors. The writing itself wasn't bad for the most part -- it was clean, with the plot developing smoothly as it went along, but I was also keenly aware that this universe was populated by a bunch of barbarians rather than the kind of reasonable people that were depicted here. We even get a glimpse of both McCoy and Scotty's counterparts being less than civil after having inadvertently materialized in our universe in the original series episode, where they're seen yelling like a couple of animals at one point. So Spock expecting to win over Mirror Scotty here should have been the biggest reach, and yet he accomplishes getting Scotty to work with him with virtually no objection at all. Also, in a universe dominated by greed and self-interest, how did Spock expect to pay these people after he stole the Enterprise and broke away from the Empire? And not for nothing, but Kirk's guards looked like a couple of wimps. You mean to tell me Mignona couldn't find a couple of big guys to take on those two roles, especially given that they had barely any dialogue, and were more importantly meant to be seen rather than heard? I also found it difficult to believe that Kirk would have had that many crew members being exiled along with him near the end after his startling admission about the crew being nothing more than pawns to his whims was played ship-wide to the crew. But again, despite these criticisms, as a Fan Film, it amused me. |
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Post by captainbasil on Jun 18, 2014 6:44:30 GMT -5
I have to catch this on the weekend. I was telling a guy at work that it was out. I got him hooked on ST Continues and Phase II.
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Post by CRAMBAM on Jun 18, 2014 9:12:52 GMT -5
I agree that what Mirror Spock accomplished was too easy, but to truly tell that story right, you need a lot more than 40 minutes, and given the scarcity of episodes, I'm sure they want to do a lot more in the prime universe than in the mirror universe.
I figured that Kirk would have been far more formidable.
The savage people would likely have sided with whichever side they felt would win, which in this case, was Spock.
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Post by captainbasil on Jun 21, 2014 7:10:51 GMT -5
I agree that Mirror Spock had it too easy, but it was a very well done episode. I absolutely loved the Mirror Opening Credits and monologue. It was a nice touch.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Jun 27, 2014 20:03:22 GMT -5
Someone brought this to my attention in the Reddit Trek Forum yesterday and was wondering if any if you knew of this production? I watched the first fifteen minutes on my TV last night. There's a lot of things I would take issue with, which I won't go into right now, but these people have a budget and production crew obviously, and some of their sets, for a fan production, are fairly impressive. The acting isn't great, but it's also not the worst I've seen in a Trek Fan Film, and the only reason I stopped watching it and didn't go back to it last night was hecause of time constraints and my having to get to bed. I'll probably go back to it and watch the rest of it at some point later tonight. Anyway, I'd be interested in your thoughts should any of you give it a look, and I'd be happy to chime in with some of my own. |
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Post by captainbasil on Jun 30, 2014 6:53:32 GMT -5
I heard about this from Reddit too. I will have to check it out. A new Phase II is supposed to be out soon, as well.
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Post by CRAMBAM on Jun 30, 2014 12:27:45 GMT -5
For me, I really don't have much interest in a Star Trek story that doesn't involve Kirk and crew in some form. Maybe if it involved an actor reprising his role from a real series, but other than that, it's the characters.
I am looking forward to the next Phase II, though it's interesting how ST Continues is kicking their asses right now.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Jun 30, 2014 12:37:19 GMT -5
For me, I really don't have much interest in a Star Trek story that doesn't involve Kirk and crew in some form. Well, I watched the rest of "Star Trek Phoenix" the other night, shortly after I posted, and maybe it was the way I watched it, broken in to two parts, but I found it got more interesting in the second half, and by the time it reached the end of the episode, I was looking forward to where it seemed to be headed, but then the episode ended, without an ending, so I became a little annoyed. It's been two years since they put that first part up and they still haven't produced a continuation, so that was disappointing. But once I got passed the unknown characters and their introduction, it was interesting to watch. I've heard they were looking to raise funds to produce Part 2, but that should have been done a long time ago in my view. |
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Post by CRAMBAM on Jun 30, 2014 13:00:28 GMT -5
So this isn't even a full episode? Just two parts without a conclusion?
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Jun 30, 2014 17:36:03 GMT -5
So this isn't even a full episode? Just two parts without a conclusion? It's just one part so far, and I have no real idea how long they intended to stretch out this story arc. So things begin to get tense, the episode ends, and that's as far as they've taken it so far. :::Sigh::: |
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Post by captainbasil on Jul 1, 2014 6:48:10 GMT -5
For me, I really don't have much interest in a Star Trek story that doesn't involve Kirk and crew in some form. Maybe if it involved an actor reprising his role from a real series, but other than that, it's the characters. I am looking forward to the next Phase II, though it's interesting how ST Continues is kicking their asses right now. I feel bad that they're getting their ass kicked because Phase II has been at this longer and a lot of their people defected to ST Continues. I like both groups but the rivalry annoys me. Plus I feel that Farragut films is cheating the Farragut fans by devoting so much of their resources to ST Continues. |
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Post by CRAMBAM on Jul 1, 2014 11:42:21 GMT -5
I feel bad too, but the reality is, if you get your episodes out faster, people will notice, and they ARE doing a great job.
Chris Doohan alone has been terrific. It's a shame they can't combine resources and put out more episodes, but there is a LOT of bitterness between the two camps. They aired their dirty laundry online awhile back.
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Post by captainbasil on Jul 7, 2014 12:52:09 GMT -5
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Jul 7, 2014 19:59:52 GMT -5
Yeah, I saw this the other day myself, but I really can't deal with Phase II, and I'm also not too keen on the actor they chose to play Kirk. For some reason the guy strikes me as an overgrown little kid, and I just can't shake that impression of him for some reason, so naturally I don't like him in that role of all roles. Haven't read the article by the way. The only Trek Fan Film I'm really interested in right now, and have high hopes for (which I hope aren't thwarted ultimately) is "Star Trek: Axanar". This is a group of mostly professionals working on that project, but we have a long wait for their 90-minute film unfortunately, as it won't be out until next year apparently. And they really do seem to be dragging their feet releasing their 20-minute short, "Prelude to Axanar", probably because they're running the Convention circuit with it presently. I think "Renegades" will be a mixed bag of some good ideas and poor execution, with some silly ideas mixed in, resulting in it not being entered into canon. I have a funny feeling that if "Axanar" is done well enough, it might actually find a way to work its way into canon, despite studio reluctance to officially acknowledge it as such, at least at the outset. And why the hell is this forum so dead most of the time? I see a lot more action elsewhere frankly, and that's not intended to be a snide remark. I'm just saying, what the fuck? I also hate it when I post a feeler, such as regarding "Spartacus", and it's met by crickets chirping. If people aren't interested, well then so be it, but perhaps chiming in with a reason or two as to why might not leave me feeling as though I've completely wasted my time on something when I could have put it to some better use elsewhere. Just saying. And pardon the thread drift. |
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Post by CRAMBAM on Jul 8, 2014 11:49:10 GMT -5
I think it's due to the fact that it's the summer. Good TV is not new, much new TV is not good, and I can say personally, I'm running around.
My summer TV has basically been Breaking Bad and more recently Falling Skies.
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