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Post by Mel on Nov 20, 2012 1:47:35 GMT -5
I don't think Quinto plans to jettison Spock. He said he doesn't want to play serial killers anymore. Spock is not in that category!
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Post by CRAMBAM on Nov 20, 2012 7:21:43 GMT -5
He keeps shooting down the rumor too. Ultimately, I like Quinto in the role and hope he stays there, but it's not like he made the role legendary. He's not Nimoy. Replacing him is no big deal.
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Nov 26, 2012 23:55:17 GMT -5
From over at Collider...
STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS Synopsis Revealed; Kirk and Crew Go on an Intergalactic Manhunt J.J. Abrams is very good at keeping his plots a secret, and only revealing information when he chooses. He’s done a terrific job keeping his cards close to the vest for Star Trek Into Darkness, but as we count down to the reveal of the first trailer and first nine minutes of the movie (the latter being shown in front of The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey in IMAX 3D), the official synopsis has been announced. Hit the jump for the synopsis. The film stars Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto, Karl Urban, Anton Yelchin, Zoe Saldana, John Cho, Simon Pegg, Alice Eve, Peter Weller, Noel Clarke, and Benedict Cumberbatch. Star Trek Into Darkness opens in 3D and IMAX 3D on May 17, 2013. collider.com/star-trek-2-into-darkness-synopsis/213764/so from the way this reads, so far it doesn't sound like Khan, but it DOES sound like they might be going Section 31, which would be very interesting. I'm a little more interested now. Then again, this could all be part of the master shell game they are playing.
-TK
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Nov 27, 2012 15:52:45 GMT -5
Here's the Blastr article concerning this (I still have not read the synopsis, and may not).Star Trek: Into Darkness finally gets an official synopsis In the grand scheme of things, the release of Star Trek: Into Darkness is just around the corner, but in true J.J. Abrams fashion, few concrete details are known about the story. Today, however, we FINALLY have the first official synopsis. MORE: blastr.com/2012/11/star-trek-into-darkness-f.php
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Nov 27, 2012 16:46:35 GMT -5
You're not missing a whole lot whether you do read the synopsis or not. Frankly, the word "synopsis" is maybe too loose for the vague collection of sentences we got. And it's a poorly written synopsis as well. I won't spoil it, but there is one clause in there that is very confusing and a poor choice of words.
but we'll all know soon enough anyway. Just a few weeks from the first trailer!
-TK
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Post by CRAMBAM on Nov 27, 2012 17:43:22 GMT -5
Hopefully the trailer will at least reveal if Cumberbatch is Mitchell, because the synopsis is leading that way.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Nov 27, 2012 18:49:39 GMT -5
Okay, you're both right --I read it. Cram's last message compelled me too, and I will say that if you look at Cumberbatch's green eyes in the picture that accompanied the article, it does sound like it's possibly (I'm reluctant to use the word probably) Gary Mitchell.
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Nov 27, 2012 19:41:19 GMT -5
Yes, Mitchell does seem a likely candidate (and frankly, a character that should have appeared in the previous film). Others are suggesting that the uninformative synopsis also might suggest Garth of Izar.
but all this does make Khan less likely, which is at least a consolation.
-TK
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Post by CRAMBAM on Nov 28, 2012 8:17:13 GMT -5
I think Mitchell is the best possible choice, though they blew an opportunity in the last movie to introduce him as a major character. Imagine how it would be if Mitchell was in the movie instead of Chekov, gets all of Chekov's role, but ends up as a third member of the Kirk/McCoy crew.
He's well written, well rounded, and the audience likes him, only to have this tragedy happen to him.
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Post by Mel on Nov 29, 2012 6:16:54 GMT -5
I don't remember Garth of Izar. I looked him up at startrek.com, and it says he's in the episode, Galileo Seven. That can't be right! If the name of the actor had been referenced, I could have looked it up that way, but no! Gee, thanks, startrek.com!
Ah. The picture shows Marta, a beautiful green Orion woman, with Garth. She's listed at imdb.com (Garth isn't). The episode is Whom Gods Destroy. The actor was Steve Ihnat. Marta is Yvonne Craig. Now it all makes sense.
Hmm. It might be fun to see an Orion woman on the big screen. 
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Post by CRAMBAM on Nov 29, 2012 12:57:03 GMT -5
They had an Orion woman in the last movie  |
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Post by Mel on Nov 29, 2012 13:05:57 GMT -5
LOL! Shows how little I remember the movie. Oh, was she Uhura's roommate? Was she green or blue? They can be either color.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Nov 29, 2012 13:53:50 GMT -5
They had an Orion woman in the last movie |
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Nov 29, 2012 14:23:26 GMT -5
I don't remember Garth of Izar. I looked him up at startrek.com, and it says he's in the episode, Galileo Seven. That can't be right! If the name of the actor had been referenced, I could have looked it up that way, but no! Gee, thanks, startrek.com! This one has me a little perplexed to be honest, but the actor you're wondering about was named Steve Ihnat. m.imdb.com/name/nm0407307/en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_IhnatThe reason I'm perplexed here is because I could have sworn he was also in "The Manchurian Candidate", but I don't see him credited for having played any kind of a role in that film. |
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Post by Mel on Dec 1, 2012 1:46:44 GMT -5
Now I'm perplexed. I wrote a reply to this yesterday, but it's not here.
As I read your post, I flashed on Ihnat being in The Manchurian Candidate (1962) but maybe not. As you said, he's not credited for it. Perhaps there's an actor in the movie who has a strong resemblance to him. I have it on DVD. One of these days, I'll watch it, and see if I can find him or his look-alike.
I always liked Steve as an actor. He guest-starred in so many favorites: 77 Sunset Strip, Hawaiian Eye, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Outer Limits, The Virginian, The Name of the Game (I wish that would come out on DVD!), Mission Impossible, Bonanza, The FBI, and lots of B&W anthology shows.
At imdb.com, it states he was born in the old Czechoslovakia, and raised in Canada on a farm. He came to the USA and joined the Army during the Korean War, but didn't become an American citizen.
He and his wife were married just two years when he died of a heart attack at the age of 38. They had one son, who died at age 32.
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Post by CRAMBAM on Dec 1, 2012 11:19:36 GMT -5
That's pretty bad genetics unfortunately.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Dec 5, 2012 13:44:03 GMT -5
Over at Blastr:Simon Pegg reveals some tantalizing Star Trek 2 trailer news Thank you, Simon Pegg. After getting a peek at that disaster-filled Star Trek Into Darkness poster this week, we've been dying to know when we'll see more. Now, we do. MORE: blastr.com/2012/12/simon-pegg-reveals-some-t.php
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Post by CRAMBAM on Dec 6, 2012 7:55:06 GMT -5
trailers.apple.com/trailers/paramount/startrekintodarkness/ Here's the first one minute trailer. My opinion? Still could be Khan, and I think the trailer points more to that than Mitchell. The idea that they are hiding the villain makes me think it IS Khan because I don't believe the audience wants that, and Abrams knows that well enough to hide it.
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Dec 6, 2012 7:59:05 GMT -5
The biggest arrow pointing to Khan is the "I will have my vengeance" line. Though admittedly we have still seen so little of the film it's all guess work.
My biggest concern from watching the trailer is that, while it doesn't seem to be the lens flare extravaganza of the first one, this movie seems to have taken a page from the Christopher Nolan school of filmmaking. I hope that's just the marketing. I don't want a dash of Dark Knight in my Star Trek.
-TK
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Dec 6, 2012 11:38:09 GMT -5
I had to go over to YouTube to watch the trailer because it wouldn't play on my Android phone over at Apple's Web site, but I don't think it's Khan --could well be Gary Mitchell, and I was also struck by Alice Eve's hairstyle, which looks just like Sally Kellerman's hair did when she played Elizabeth Dehner in "Where No Man has Gone Before."
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Dec 6, 2012 11:54:44 GMT -5
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Dec 6, 2012 12:04:21 GMT -5
The Japanese Trailer is slightly different.
Over at io9:First Star Trek Into Darkness Teaser Sends the Enterprise Straight to Hell J.J. Abrams' first Star Trek movie destroyed Vulcan and wreaked havoc with the timeline — and judging from this first minute of footage from Star Trek Into Darkness, the destruction is only going to be more massive this time around. More » io9.com/5966148/first-star-trek-into-darkness-teaser-sends-the-enterprise-straight-to-hell
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Dec 9, 2012 3:07:02 GMT -5
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Post by Mel on Dec 9, 2012 17:35:22 GMT -5
A while ago, there was an interview with Zachary Quinto where some thought he said he no longer wanted to play Spock. We have a trailer with what could be a Spock/Kirk moment like in TWOK. Maybe Cumberbatch is Khan. Maybe Spock does die. If so, why destroy the timeline in the first movie, if TPTB plan to remake the original movies?!?
Btw, in the picture where Uhura cries on Scotty's shoulder, Scotty has a much better hairline than in the first movie. Thank goodness. He needed it! I wish they'd done that in the first movie, and given him dark hair.
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Post by CRAMBAM on Dec 9, 2012 18:07:22 GMT -5
If they did that, they might be run out of Hollywood. If you think about it, how bad would it be to keep your plot secret, and just remake TWOK?
No chance.
I think that glass touching scene is more of a homage than anything else, and the fact that it's in the trailer probably means it's a misdirection, like Kirk being vaporized in the ST6 trailer.
Plus, that moment sure looks like KIRK, not Spock, is the one that was hurt.
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Dec 10, 2012 17:14:52 GMT -5
This scene reminds me of when Mitchell was being held in a cell in "Where No Man Has Gone Before".
Over at Blastr:New Star Trek 2 pic reveals the name of Cumberbatch's villain! Paramount Pictures has finally thrown us a bone. The identity of Benedict Cumberbatch's Star Trek villain has been revealed. The studio's released a new photo that gives a name to the raven-haired baddie. MORE: blastr.com/2012/12/benedict-cumberbatchs-dea.php
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Dec 10, 2012 17:41:44 GMT -5
Over at io9:What will you learn from the first 9 minutes of Star Trek Into Darkness [/i]?[/b]  [/center] This Friday, we'll all be seeing the first nine minutes of Star Trek Into Darkness before IMAX screenings of The Hobbit. But a select group of Los Angeles journalists have already seen the footage, and the first descriptions are already out. More » io9.com/5967231/what-will-you-learn-from-the-first-9-minutes-of-star-trek-into-darkness
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Post by CRAMBAM on Dec 10, 2012 20:59:52 GMT -5
So they apparently NAMED the villain.
SPOILER (well, not really)....
The villain's name is John Harrison. There WAS a Harrison on Kirk's crew. He sort of looks like Benicio Del Toro, and WAS in several episodes of TOS.
en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Harrison
Still speculation, but if this is what they went with, I have to tip my hat.
It would be a canon character that NO ONE would have guessed, and probably has the entire Trek fandom saying, "who?"
If this is the case, then neither Orci nor Pegg lied.
If this is the case, they have a lot of room to work with.
Not to mention with all the speculation of Gary Mitchell and Khan, I actually find this to be a bit funny.
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Post by TrekBeatTK on Dec 10, 2012 22:18:19 GMT -5
There's a part of me that still really hopes Section 31 is involved somehow. I don't know how, but I think it would be nice since we know nothing of it in the 23rd Century really.
-TK
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Post by StarFuryG7 on Dec 10, 2012 23:34:35 GMT -5
So they apparently NAMED the villain. SPOILER (well, not really)....
The villain's name is John Harrison. There WAS a Harrison on Kirk's crew. He sort of looks like Benicio Del Toro, and WAS in several episodes of TOS. en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Harrison[/quote] You're not really buying into that, are you? For one thing, the powers that be claimed that it was going to be a character fans of the original series would be very familiar with--a character that we would know right away. Do you think anyone would have been guessing this Harrison dude?
More than likely, it's an assumed name, and we learn the real identity of the character Cumberbatch is playing a little later in the film. In fact, I wonder if this name, John Harrison, comes up in the first nine minutes of the movie, and that that's why it was leaked now. "The Hobbitt" comes out this weekend.
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